BENCHMADE or KERSHAW.

Overall I'm more of a fan of Kershaw knives but between those two choices I would go with the mini-grip.
 
Leeks are very nice and I've never had mine fail, but I prefer the Mini Grips for overall EDC.
 
BOTH!!!

I have a Leek combination blade and it's great. The quality of the framelock is rock solid and the CPM-D2 is awesome stuff :D Overall a great value and a great EDC.

I have a Ritter Grip (fullsized) and i love it as well :) The Noryl GTX feels flimsy at first, but the stuff is really amazing. It's very tough and very resistant to chemicals, ect. The Axis lock is something that you almost instantly fall in love with. The mini grip (i hear) feels very solid and gives you almost the same feel as the full sized. The only downside to Grips for EDC (i EDC my fullsized alot) is that the profile is a little obtuse, not nearly as sleek as the Leek. But like i said, i EDC the fullsized grip without any troubles (even picked up the trainer blade lol, love that knife).

Get both.:cool:
 
I have EDCd a leek, its in my rotation actually. Never had a lock failure on it, but I dont use it hard. Isnt that type of knife. It can handle tough chores for sure.

The mini grip just feels cheap to me. The axis lock is strong, not arguing, but other than that, just to "light" for me considering the materials.

out of those two choices, i still say the Leek, but i will also agree with the mini cyclone. good weight, can turn the AO on and off, solid construction, can handle jobs the Leek shouldnt.

Dont forget the Shallot. a bit bigger prolly, but it is truely a Leek on roids :D
 
personally, I'd rather have the grip. I've had two leeks and both had lock issues. as a matter of fact, I've had lock issues with both the mini cyclone andthe blur. I've kind of decided no more kershaws for that reason.

The BM is a rock solid knife. It's got a great lock and the steel is really top notch.

No offense to the kershaw folks. I'm sure my experiences are out of the norm, but it really soured me.

take care and good luck!

brett

(i've just today traded my full size grip for a mini--so I'll let you know when I get i)
 
bdws1975 said:
personally, I'd rather have the grip. I've had two leeks and both had lock issues. as a matter of fact, I've had lock issues with both the mini cyclone andthe blur. I've kind of decided no more kershaws for that reason.

The BM is a rock solid knife. It's got a great lock and the steel is superior.

No offense to the kershaw folks. I'm sure my experiences are out of the norm, but it really soured me.

take care and good luck!

brett

(i've just today traded my full size grip for a mini--so I'll let you know when I get i)
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none taken. every company has a lemon now and then. what can ya say? this stuff is all made by humans, so nothing will be perfect.

kershaws like that are a very tiny percentage of the overall. just like BM, and Spyderco.

i will say this, if you are lucky enough to find it, the mini cyclone in Ti/ZDP can and will handle everything you throw at it. Ti frame lock. excelent knife. good luck finding one though, as they are a PAIN to find. a certain auction site may have them, not sure.
 
I agree wit you definitely. I'm sure I just got unlucky. The blur really disappointed me as I loved it otherwise.

Also, the speedsafe is a bit too dangerous these days. I'm really not a fan and never have been too much, but I've become less of a fan recently.

take care!
brett
offsetlover said:
none taken. every company has a lemon now and then. what can ya say? this stuff is all made by humans, so nothing will be perfect.

kershaws like that are a very tiny percentage of the overall. just like BM, and Spyderco.

i will say this, if you are lucky enough to find it, the mini cyclone in Ti/ZDP can and will handle everything you throw at it. Ti frame lock. excelent knife. good luck finding one though, as they are a PAIN to find. a certain auction site may have them, not sure.
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stormyone said:
Benchmade is in a whole 'nother class than Kershaw.
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stormyone said:
Ah. The Benchmade is this discussion is in a whole 'nother class than the Kershaw.
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Don't come in here with your one-liner troll trashing posts without backing it up.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

154CM is really just ATS-34. This steel was used
by BM for years. Then they start using 440C and
decide to change to 154CM like it's something super.
Whooptee-do

Too bad BM doesn't offer any other steels like S30V
for this knife. Might make for a closer comparison.
BM still using plastic handles.
Who wants plastic?
I like stainless and G-10 handles.

Kershaw offers a plethora of designs and materials for their products.
Their warranty is better than BM's any day.
Kershaw's customer service is better than BM's by a long shot.
I've dealt with BM CS and they're a joke compared to the folks at Kershaw.

Call me a Kershaw Fanboy, doesn't bother me.
I like their products (the hundreds I have), their CS and their warranty
should I ever have to use it.

mike
 
I'm gonna get slammed for this, but here goes:

I've contacted Kershaw on THREE occasions to get a clip for a knife and each time they promised to send one, while none ever arrived.

Bm, on the other hand, has sent me FOUR clips with screws and have never let me down.

I dont' think it's reflection of either company per se, but there's always two sides to the coin. Please don''t see this as an attack, I'm just relaying my experience. My reason for doing so is that being a die hard fan of any company sometimes dismisses the truth that no one is perfect, and companies especially.

take care,
brett
2brothers said:
Don't come in here with your one-liner troll trashing posts without backing it up.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.

154CM is really just ATS-34. This steel was used
by BM for years. Then they start using 440C and
decide to change to 154CM like it's something super.
Whooptee-do

Too bad BM doesn't offer any other steels like S30V
for this knife. Might make for a closer comparison.
BM still using plastic handles.
Who wants plastic?
I like stainless and G-10 handles.

Kershaw offers a plethora of designs and materials for their products.
Their warranty is better than BM's any day.
Kershaw's customer service is better than BM's by a long shot.
I've dealt with BM CS and they're a joke compared to the folks at Kershaw.

Call me a Kershaw Fanboy, doesn't bother me.
I like their products (the hundreds I have), their CS and their warranty
should I ever have to use it.

mike
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2brothers said:
Don't come in here with your one-liner troll trashing posts without backing it up.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.



mike
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and for the record, I agree that those one liners are NOT useful nor are they helpful.

Brett
 
bdws1975 said:
I'm gonna get slammed for this, but here goes:

I've contacted Kershaw on THREE occasions to get a clip for a knife and each time they promised to send one, while none ever arrived.

Bm, on the other hand, has sent me FOUR clips with screws and have never let me down.

I dont' think it's reflection of either company per se, but there's always two sides to the coin. Please don''t see this as an attack, I'm just relaying my experience. My reason for doing so is that being a die hard fan of any company sometimes dismisses the truth that no one is perfect, and companies especially.

take care,
brett
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its understandable, but to be honest, i never call them. i always do things through e-mail. things can get lost in translation to easily with ANYone on the phone. of course with big time warranty issues, i would call, but for soemthing with clips, i would just e-mail them. my personal experiance.

no offense, but you seem to have the worse luck lol
 
I KNOW!!! My luck has never really been all that great....:)

actually, I believe I did do it via email, now that I think of it. I probably still have the email conversations. I rarely get rid of them.

Anyway, I don't want anyone to think I don't respect kershaw. i DO. i've just not had the best of luck.

Take care,
brett
offsetlover said:
its understandable, but to be honest, i never call them. i always do things through e-mail. things can get lost in translation to easily with ANYone on the phone. of course with big time warranty issues, i would call, but for soemthing with clips, i would just e-mail them. my personal experiance.

no offense, but you seem to have the worse luck lol
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When faced with the same choice I chose the Griptilian over the leek.
I like 154CM steel because it has performed well for me.
Better lock.
I like the blade shape better.
And the assisted open is not something that I count as a plus for the Leek. I don't have anything against it. It just isn't a feature that I count as a draw.

I think Kershaw does a good job of design and manufacturing, I just prefer the design an d features of the Mini-grip more.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm a Kershaw fan, and don't really like Benchmade's offerings (among other things) as of late, but your post, 2Brothers, bothers me for a couple of reasons.

2brothers said:
Don't come in here with your one-liner troll trashing posts without backing it up.
You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
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The poster could mean that he thinks Benchmade is in a higher price range than Kershaw, as some people aren't aware that KAI/Kershaw have really started to branch out recently when it comes to higher priced, top of the line knives. Heck, I don't expect that every person who comes onto these forums knows that Shun and Zero Tolerance are related to KAI/Kershaw, and what a composite blade and MIM are.

2brothers said:
154CM is really just ATS-34. This steel was used
by BM for years. Then they start using 440C and
decide to change to 154CM like it's something super.
Whooptee-do
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Well, since the basic version of the Leek is 13C26, 154CM is something to get excited over, so "Whooptee-do" right back!

2brothers said:
Too bad BM doesn't offer any other steels like S30V
for this knife. Might make for a closer comparison.
BM still using plastic handles.
Who wants plastic?
I like stainless and G-10 handles.
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You apparently don't know much about the BM Grips! The Ritter Grips (mini included) have S30V, not to mention the fact that, if you look around, you can find Grips in D-2, so if I were you, I'd do some homework before you go off on somebody else!

As far as "plastic" goes, how much do you actually know about FRN and similar materials? You did of course realize that even Kershaw makes knives out of "plastic," right? Ever heard of the Blackout, the Whirlwind, the Echo, and several others?

2brothers said:
Kershaw offers a plethora of designs and materials for their products.
Their warranty is better than BM's any day.
Kershaw's customer service is better than BM's by a long shot.
I've dealt with BM CS and they're a joke compared to the folks at Kershaw.
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Care to elaborate on that? Lets hear some examples? Better yet, can you provide links to the threads you've started on Benchmade's "joke" of a Customer Service/Warranty Department?

2brothers said:
Call me a Kershaw Fanboy, doesn't bother me.
I like their products (the hundreds I have), their CS and their warranty
should I ever have to use it.

mike
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Nobody has called you any names, though I think that you're a wee bit overzealous, not to mention the fact that you posted without really doing your homework on Benchmade's Griptillian variations.;)

Regards,
3G
 
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