Benchmade or Spyderco; can't decide.

YES. Go to the shop see which one you like best personally i prefer BM but there are loads of spydie fanboys. Oh and kershaws work too.
 
lazerboy2000 said:
+1 on BM and Kershaw
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I had a Kershaw way back. My impression of them was they were more of a styled rather than utility knife. I had Gerber too, and Buck. Things have changed and I'm learning about the newer blade compositions and designers. For information, this forum is a gem. I appreciate everyone's replies. I'll be sure and update when I pull the trigger so-to-speak.
 
p_mcmanis said:
theres actually a fair bit of logic and reasoning behind the coin, but if I told you what that was, it would ruin the effect. but I will say that you will definately get your answer if you give it a shot.
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I use this trick on my friends all the time ;)
 
gldfshkpr said:
I've been lurking here on the forums lately. This will be my first nice knife in a long time. I recently purchased a Henckle chefs knife to replace the one I tried to hack apart frozen beef bones for my dogs (not a good idea). I guess I'm inspired to finally get myself a nice EDC to replace my bulky Wallyworld Winchester folder.

I'm torn between the Spyderco Centofante 3 or the Benchmade 745 Lum Mini.

I'm looking for a utility knife for light duty use that can be my EDC. Any opinions / reviews / insights are appreciated. Oh yeah, and will I be able to open a can in an X style if I had too? Is the s30v / vg10 steel that hard?

Peace,
Kirk
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Both Knives are great. In this situation, the Spydie you chose does have a thiner blade compared to the other spydies (Endura/Delica etc..), and between the two, the BM Lum will out cut the Centofante. In my experience the VG10, is easier to sharpen than S30V, and the edge retention between the two is about equal. I'd give S30V a little more props for edge retention, but not a lot, especially for the price difference. Now if you went with a thicker bladed Spydie like the endura/delica/caly3 (all great for EDC because they are very light, have 4 postitions for the clip (except caly), and have a fantastic blade steel) I rotate my EDCs every week. This summer, I think I carried my endura4 for like 3 weeks because I loved the feel of it in my pocket, and in my hand. This is why I have 2 enduras (black FRN w/ stainles combo edge, and an endura4 wave plain edge). You should also take a look at those waved enduras and delicas. They are awesome. I have my 3rd Endura4 on the way (white FRN plain edge).

I am a big Benchmade fan as well. They are extremely well put together, tough, the Axis lock is probably the best locking mech. out there, and they use great handle and blade materials. I also have several BMs and love every one of them.

Some of these guys are pushing Kershaws. I have plenty of those too, but I havent bought one since they started using this newfangled sandvik blade steel. From what I've heard it's great stuff, but I don't have a lot of experience with it, so for now I'm sticking with BM and Spydie.

So bottom line, either of these knives you have chosen would work fine. Just pick the one that feels better in your hand, and in your pocket. It's important to see how it will feel after you've been using it over a long period of time.
 
As long as you are going to handle a few knives check
out a few of the Axis-lock Benchmades also if they have any..

-Ron
 
The dejavoo is such a sweet looking design. I am tempted to get one because it is a really good bargain, but the tip down carry is not really my thing. The spyderco centofante is awesome because of how thin the blade is and how light the knife carries. It's a tough decision you can't go wrong really. I give the nod towards spyderco for ease of carry and the nod to benchmade for looks and style.

I just got a BM mini ritter grip and I really like it. The BM 710 is my favorite production knife, but Spydercos have impressed me through use more than anything.
 
Lum designs are beautiful, the man was a master of his art and is missed by many, so do get the BM745. However, do check the knife personally if you can. Mine had blade centering issues and a very rude locking action. Actually, it still has these problems but I regularly EDC it anyway because it is such a beautiful knife. Check out the ones with black blade coating as well.
 
Jake Bauer said:
Both Knives are great. In this situation, the Spydie you chose does have a thiner blade compared to the other spydies (Endura/Delica etc..), and between the two, the BM Lum will out cut the Centofante. In my experience the VG10, is easier to sharpen than S30V, and the edge retention between the two is about equal. I'd give S30V a little more props for edge retention, but not a lot, especially for the price difference. Now if you went with a thicker bladed Spydie like the endura/delica/caly3 (all great for EDC because they are very light, have 4 postitions for the clip (except caly), and have a fantastic blade steel) I rotate my EDCs every week. This summer, I think I carried my endura4 for like 3 weeks because I loved the feel of it in my pocket, and in my hand. This is why I have 2 enduras (black FRN w/ stainles combo edge, and an endura4 wave plain edge). You should also take a look at those waved enduras and delicas. They are awesome. I have my 3rd Endura4 on the way (white FRN plain edge).

I am a big Benchmade fan as well. They are extremely well put together, tough, the Axis lock is probably the best locking mech. out there, and they use great handle and blade materials. I also have several BMs and love every one of them.

Some of these guys are pushing Kershaws. I have plenty of those too, but I havent bought one since they started using this newfangled sandvik blade steel. From what I've heard it's great stuff, but I don't have a lot of experience with it, so for now I'm sticking with BM and Spydie.

So bottom line, either of these knives you have chosen would work fine. Just pick the one that feels better in your hand, and in your pocket. It's important to see how it will feel after you've been using it over a long period of time.
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Wrong. The Caly 3 has a thinner blade, it is a full flat grind. http://spyderco.com/catalog/details.php?product=235
 
I myself would definitly go Spyderco all the way, I personaly think benchmade would be the choice if you were going the way of an auto, which Benchmade is one of the best
 
p_mcmanis said:
theres actually a fair bit of logic and reasoning behind the coin, but if I told you what that was, it would ruin the effect. but I will say that you will definately get your answer if you give it a shot.
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the logic and reasoning being that coin tosses by human hands are for all intents and purposes random and unpredictable since we can never know all initial conditions in a real life coin toss conducted in an uncontrolled multivariate environment? yes, it's all mechanical, but there's no way the human mind could predict or determine the outcome of a coin toss because there are way too many factors interacting in human tossing a coin...we could never calculate the ultimate bias and thus predict the outcome. :) so the only answer he'll get with a coin toss is a for all intents and purposes (even if not technically) a random one, whether or not if he picks a face to toss up on.
 
Well, I'm back from the knife shop. What a disapointment! Not totally, but my local shop is a certified BM dealer and he told me the mini has been discontinued! I wonder why it's in the 2008 catalog. The 740 was in and I'm very impressed. It's just a tad to big for an EDC for me. What a beautiful kinife. It feels so balanced in the hand. The price he has on it is $159. I think he wanted to sell me that so he told me the mini is discontinued.

I also checked out the Centofante. It felt very light to me; too light. For a handle to be that long, it just felt unbalanced to me. The knife is priced at $89.

Overall, the shop does not impress me. I'm happy to have held half a dozen knives though. Can anyone recommend a good online distrubuter? Is New Graham Knives a reputable dealer?
 
rksoon said:
the logic and reasoning being that coin tosses by human hands are for all intents and purposes random and unpredictable since we can never know all initial conditions in a real life coin toss conducted in an uncontrolled multivariate environment? yes, it's all mechanical, but there's no way the human mind could predict or determine the outcome of a coin toss because there are way too many factors interacting in human tossing a coin...we could never calculate the ultimate bias and thus predict the outcome. :) so the only answer he'll get with a coin toss is a for all intents and purposes (even if not technically) a random one, whether or not if he picks a face to toss up on.
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actually you are completely wrong, and on top of that, that comes off as being the most pretensious, pseudointellectual bull crap I have ever heard. seriously, take a writing class, or just simply stop trying to impress people. not even the victorian era novelists were that long winded.

the real answer is simple and is easily demonstratable by looking at both possible outcomes; one, the coin lands on the knife he really wants and he says to himself "see that was the one I wanted", and two, the coin lands on the opposite side but he says to himself "no, Ill flip it again, I messed the flip up" or "but I really want the other one" so he buys the knife he really wanted.

to demonstrate why I am also way more awesome than you, I will show why the simplest answer is the best:

lex parsimonae : entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
law of shortness: things not are multiplied beyond necessity
occam's razor : the simplest answer is the best one.

please let me know which one you found most inelligable.

tl;dr I am awesome.
 
p_mcmanis said:
actually you are completely wrong, and on top of that, that comes off as being the most pretensious, pseudointellectual bull crap I have ever heard. seriously, take a writing class, or just simply stop trying to impress people. not even the victorian era novelists were that long winded.

the real answer is simple and is easily demonstratable by looking at both possible outcomes; one, the coin lands on the knife he really wants and he says to himself "see that was the one I wanted", and two, the coin lands on the opposite side but he says to himself "no, Ill flip it again, I messed the flip up" or "but I really want the other one" so he buys the knife he really wanted.

to demonstrate why I am also way more awesome than you, I will show why the simplest answer is the best:

lex parsimonae : entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
law of shortness: things not are multiplied beyond necessity
occam's razor : the simplest answer is the best one.

please let me know which one you found most inelligable.

tl;dr I am awesome.
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HHAHAH. damn. owned. i will slither away :-D no wait. first that is going on my signature!

i can't fit it :( p_mcmanis, shorten it for me!
 
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Okay. I found it. I neglected to ask what knife I was holding at the store. It just caught my eye and I asked to hold it. It's a Spyderco. I really like the way it felt and really like the skinny profile. It's the Spyderco Stretch. At New Grahams it goes for $103. My local shop has it for $89. What do you guys know about this knife? What do you all think about this knife versus the Lum in terms of quality?
 
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