Benchmade steals the spyderhole

That's the Byrd steel. Is this knife made in China? Things like patents don't mean much there. It's also not the first time they used the Spyder hole without liscencing it. Perhaps they figured liscencing it for the AFCK was enough :') Everybody is doing it now. Nobody really believes Mantis liscenced it do they? Joe
 
The Mastiff said:
That's the Byrd steel. Is this knife made in China? Things like patents don't mean much there. It's also not the first time they used the Spyder hole without liscencing it. Perhaps they figured liscencing it for the AFCK was enough :') Everybody is doing it now. Nobody really believes Mantis liscenced it do they? Joe
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Benchmade is not mantis.

I'm sure that they've licensed it, both because it's the right thing to do and because if they didn't, they would be very exposed from a legal standpoint.

I'm sure that it's legit. So if you like benchmade Fit and Finish, but the round hole opener, might be a good knife to own.
 
Sal stated not too long ago, that they would licence only to custom makers and not to production companies.
 
SilverFoxKnows said:
they licensed it again. The original AFCK used the round hole with Sal's permission.

Frank
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I'm guessing Silver Fox is right. BM has had relationships with SC in the past.

They did the oval hole before to seperate themselves and why would they do that if they wanted to steal? They could still be doing the oval hole. I'm sure they liscensed it from SC again.

Personally, I think the oval hole is better for some knives.

That's a nice knife, by the way. Looks like something that could be a popular "everyone's" EDC.

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I'd be surprised if Spyderco gave consent for Benchmade to make this particular knife with their hole.
 
it's not the Byrd steel, byrd steel is 8Cr13MoV, this is 8Cr14MoV...probably not at all different but i had very big 'WTF benchmade?' moment. It's a very sad and disillusioning moment for Phil, who was a very large benchmade fan, and is starting to believe everyone who says benchmade steals their designs...

poop.
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I'm pretty sure the spyderhole isn't patented anymore as a device, only as a trademark...there was a recent discussion over at the spyderforum here....on this..in any case, they no doubt talked to Spyderco about it anyway.

I really like this knife. I can't believe I'm going to buy a red class though...I really think Benchmade should stick to America...

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Not sure how ergonomic a rectangle block of G10 will be and I don't care for liner locks, but I would like to try this out. Blade grind doesn't look bad. Wonder what the street price will be compared to a G10 Cara Cara.
 
This should be slightly under 40 on NGK. Wait, sorry, they don't get Benchmades anymore, do they. But, if it WERE to be sold on NGK, it would be a little under 40.
 
SilverFoxKnows said:
they licensed it again. The original AFCK used the round hole with Sal's permission.

Frank
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Do you know this for sure, or are you guessing, SFK? Spyderco has said they will not license the round hole to other companies. I don't think Spyderco or Benchmade have commented on whether BM licensed it.
 
Vivi said:
Not sure how ergonomic a rectangle block of G10 will be and I don't care for liner locks, but I would like to try this out. Blade grind doesn't look bad. Wonder what the street price will be compared to a G10 Cara Cara.
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If the older Emerson designed Benchmades are an indicator I would say they will feel great in my hands. :D
 
Nilaman said:
I'd be surprised if Spyderco gave consent for Benchmade to make this particular knife with their hole.
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Lol I really like the idea of a company owning the concept of a hole.
To me thats like owning the concept of hot water.

WHAT !?!?! They heated the water you say?? But we have the patent on that !!! DAMN CHINA, they never respeckt anything.

:jerkit: :rolleyes:
 
I wonder why nobody Patents the thumbstud, if you can patent a hole why not the stud?
 
It's not a patent boys and girls. It's a Trademark. Out of curiousity, when you see a Round Hole, not an oval, not an octogon , not a tear drop, a Round Hole, which knife company do you think of? That's what a Trademark is. The Round Hole is no different than the Butterfly. Let me ask you. Do you think Spyderco would put a Butterfly on one of their knives? Not friggin likely. And there'd be no way they'd do it without permission form BM. Besides, Spyders eat Butterflies. If this is no different than BM with the Blackwood design, it is a rip-off, plain and simple.
 
Hawkings said:
Lol I really like the idea of a company owning the concept of a hole.
To me thats like owning the concept of hot water.

WHAT !?!?! They heated the water you say?? But we have the patent on that !!! DAMN CHINA, they never respeckt anything.

:jerkit: :rolleyes:
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Try looking up Trademark. It might do you some good...
 
flipe8 said:
It's not a patent boys and girls. It's a Trademark. Out of curiousity, when you see a Round Hole, not an oval, not an octogon , not a tear drop, a Round Hole, which knife company do you think of? That's what a Trademark is. The Round Hole is no different than the Butterfly. Let me ask you. Do you think Spyderco would put a Butterfly on one of their knives? Not friggin likely. And there'd be no way they'd do it without permission form BM. Besides, Spyders eat Butterflies. If this is no different than BM with the Blackwood design, it is a rip-off, plain and simple.
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Wouldn't the Spyderco bug be more comparable to the butterfly?
 
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