Benchmade Warranty

StretchNM said:
Here's the deal on the LEO/Military gig at Benchmade:

- You did NOT buy the knife from Benchmade (simply: 1) you didn;t present LEO creds so they wouldn't have sold it to you, 2) they charge MSRP, so obviously not);

- Some dealers will sell autos without proof of LEO/Mil creds (my best bud bought an auto Presidio, against my advice. I didn;t want him to get it not because he's not authorized, but because autos take the fun out of opening and closing a well-made knife, in my opinion :) );

- If you want BM's Life Sharp service, you've got to show LEO creds, NOT proof of purchase (they don;t care when, how, or by whom it was purchased, they care only that they're dealing with someone who is an LEO, Military, or otherwise authorized to have that knife under their policy rules;

- Don;t give up. Take it to a dealer like others said OR get an LEO or Military friend to send it in for you (that's what I did in my bud's case - I said "You give this knife to me, free and clear. In about two weeks or so, I'll give it back to you. He did and I did)

- the best thing for any knife owner to do is to get equipment that works for them and learn to sharpen their own knives. It really is a pain paying for shipping the knife to them and then waiting the 2 to 3 weeks it takes (sometimes longer, depending on how busy they are) to get it back to you. Aside from that, I would take rookie4real's offer and send it to him. The turnaround time would almost assuredly be faster.

- Don;t be too quick to badmouth BM or their warranty. I own many of their knives and I've dealt with them enough to respect the company and their product. I think you'll find their knives are cool, well-made, and their company reputable.
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thumbs up,bm is protecting them,before you bad mouth them have you used there service,i have with 0 problems i go thur my dealer to send my autos back,i have a concealed permet plus my state has no auto law.................:cool:
 
Punished , learn to read, and then to write! You won't have to Quote other idiots if you have a unique opinion! I DON"T NEED BENCHMADE TO DO ANYTHING TODAY! What about a failure of the knife "later" as in! the "future". I can see a scenario where........... You know what? I'm dealing with people here that seem so outta touch I regret ever asking anything of you! I apologize many times over for me being so stupid. Thank you all for such polite intellegents in my stuper.
 
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Idiot! I don't need benchmade's service! I paid $200.00 yesterday for this knife, if you have $1 I would sell same to you!
 
troll/troublemaker..................:thumbdn:
As for bm's lifesharp any one can use there service .......as for a auto its a law from state to state,they are protecting them from a suit........
 
Being a law enforcement officer or member of the armed services does NOT license you to own automatic knives; that is a common myth, but untrue.

The Switchblade Act, (Pub.L. 85-623, 72 Stat. 562, enacted on August 12, 1958, and codified in 15 U.S.C. § 1241–1245)

18 U.S.C. § 1716(g)(2) provides this summary:

Federal law prohibits shipment of automatic knives across state lines, with the following exceptions: Switchblade knives can be shipped: (1) to civilian or Armed Forces supply or procurement officers and employees of the Federal Government ordering, procuring, or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of the Federal Government; (2) to supply or procurement officers of the National Guard, the Air National guard, or militia of a state, territory or the District of Columbia ordering, procuring, or purchasing such knives in the connection with the activities of such organization; (3) to supply or procurement officers or employees of the municipal government of the District of Columbia or the government of any State or Territory, or any county, city or other political subdivision of a State or Territory; procuring or purchasing such knives in connection with the activities of such government. (4) to manufacturers of such knives or bona fide dealers therein in connection with any shipment made pursuant of an order from any person designated in paragraphs (1), (2), and (3).


If you are a soldier or an LEO, your unit or agency can own automatic knives and you can use them in conjunction with your official duties.

That's Federal law and regulates the interstate transportation of automatic knives by any federally-licensed carrier including FedEx. That you can ship autos via UPS or FedEx is another myth.

Individual states are free to allow their citizens to own autos and some -- including Oregon -- do. But, even then, Benchmade can't legally ship the knife to even an Oregon resident via a federally-licensed carrier.

If you go through a dealer, Benchmade has legal cover because the act does allow a manufacturer to send autos to and from a bona fide dealer via federally-license carrier if the knife is for a law enforcement agency or unit of the armed services. The legal responsibility to determine that falls upon the dealer.

Right now, given the current political climate, it's best for all of us to be scrupulous about this so as not to attract the attention of those who believe that banning objects can solve social problems and that man can build for himself his own heaven on earth if only government can pass all the right laws and establish all the right programs.
 
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You are wrong on the Oregon part, Gollnick. Benchmade does ship autos within Oregon, and sells them factory direct, also, if you pick them up. It is on their website.
Same with Protech in California: why do you think they would make California-legal autos if they could not sell them?
 
I have sent a 100 autos to bm for sharpening and repair with 0 question ask,till a few months back i sent in 5 autos and some other bm's so i had a bunch,diana called and said that i would have to go thru a dealer,no problem,unless i had military credentials............
 
LorenzoL said:
You are wrong on the Oregon part, Gollnick. Benchmade does ship autos within Oregon, and sells them factory direct, also, if you pick them up. It is on their website.
Same with Protech in California: why do you think they would make California-legal autos if they could not sell them?
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As I said, the federal law does allow individual states to set regulations for possession of autos by their citizens. Oregon allows its citizens to own and overtly carry autos.

Living just miles from Benchmade's Oregon City factory, I am well-aware that Benchmade legally sells autos to private citizens from its factory offices. Being physically in Oregon, they can do this within both state and local laws. I'm also well-aware that private citizens can bring their autos to Benchmade's Oregon City factory for sharpening and repair; while they don't guarantee that it will be, the service is often done while-you-wait. Since this is all within Oregon, the federal law does not apply.

California allows its citizens to own and carry automatic knives with blades shorter than two-inches (as I recall, though check that exact length with proper authorities). So, Protech can certainly make knives for that market.
 
skybone said:
Idiot! I don't need benchmade's service! I paid $200.00 yesterday for this knife, if you have $1 I would sell same to you!
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And which one of us exactly is the one that bought the knife without looking up what the warranty was and is now mad when he reads the warranty AFTER the purchase?

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Excellent observation, Tripton!!!!!! ((( :D )))

Good post Gollnick and good info, but here's the catch: most States authorize the ownership of auto-opening knives, it's the "carry" part that gets people. And you're correct: LEO's (as far as I know) are not specifically "authorized" to carry autos, just that they "can" :)

Benchmade WILL ship, across State lines, to an LEO, military, and certain other authorized personnel, regardless of whether or not they are "purchasing for the Department". I don;t explain their interpretation of Federal or State laws, I only recognize it and pass it on to you.

The reason they use FedEx isn;t because FedEx has some "legal authority" to ship auto-knives, but they have a reputation and BM has stated in their policy that knives shipped to them must arrive by FedEx. Again, I don;t explain their call to do so, I only recognize it exists.
 
Gollnick said:
California allows its citizens to own and carry automatic knives with blades shorter than two-inches (as I recall, though check that exact length with proper authorities). So, Protech can certainly make knives for that market.
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that is correct. autos larger than that are legal to own, but illegal to carry.
 
StretchNM said:
- Don;t be too quick to badmouth BM or their warranty. I own many of their knives and I've dealt with them enough to respect the company and their product. I think you'll find their knives are cool, well-made, and their company reputable.
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sums it all up right there. ya know, you could just oin the army and then you wouldnt have to deal with this bullshit, we could always use a few more hands:D
 
I like Benchmade knives more than most, however I have emailed and left messages over ten times in the past without a single response. Now I buy about 5% of what I did in the past. Kershaw's warranty makes Benchmade's service virtually offensive.
 
J_Curd said:
I like Benchmade knives more than most, however I have emailed and left messages over ten times in the past without a single response. Now I buy about 5% of what I did in the past. Kershaw's warranty makes Benchmade's service virtually offensive.
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I've called BM with questions and put on hold for upwards of an hour. :rolleyes: I'm not saying it's bad, but my one and only interaction wasn't good.

I think it boils down to if you can't sharpen the knife yourself it should be taken and used to hit you over the head. Sharpening isn't a hard thing, and I've only very rarely used a manufacturers sharpening service. Once I had received a used, and neglected, SE Para and sent it back because I wasn't going to spend 2-3 hours sharpening them. Came back like new. I think they even got most of the blade scratches out. :thumbup:
 
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