Best 3-4'' folder for sd use.

I have been misunderstood. I didn't mean that a slash from a sharp small folder is ineffective when it hits. It will be. That's not debatable.

The problem is you won't get that chance to do this unless either you're the one assaulting the victim or your attacker has no idea at all what he is doing. A smallish pig with a shirt on it can't throw shit in your face or start hammering you from closer to you than your arms reach without warning. When someone is that close slashing is not a practical option unless all you know how to do is flail the knife around and hope you get lucky. It sounds to me like your cousin got slashed only because he didn't either run away or get close enough to smother the knife arm. About at arms reach is unquestionably the most dangerous place to be when someone has a knife, and that's where you're describing him being. Fight or haul ass, those are the only sane choices.

I have also been misunderstood in that I didn't mean knives don't need to be sharp at all. They just don't need to be sharper than a $30/40 knife is capable of getting.
 
Bigfattyt said:
Unless the cheaper lock folds on your hand and you loose your fingers.
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You're correct. The only reasonable budget options are to find a cheaper knife with a strong lock or to get a deal on a high quality used knife (or don't use a folder, but that's beyond the scope of this thread).

Ask around first, buy second.
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That's why this forum is so great. You can ask first and then buy! Several good suggestions that I agree with have been mentioned in this thread already.
 
I highly recommend you to get the cqc 12 by EKI. It has a titanium lock and is built like a tank. I have one myself and plan to pick up 2 more in the future. The price is high, but well worth the price of admission. You can pick one up for 279 at onestopknifeshop.com. You can also try looking for an old but like new in box benchmade afck without the axis lock. There has been some issues with the axis lock esp during SD situations. Your SD knife needs a finger choil. If you're on a budget, I would recommend the waved endura. Does anyone know how good the endura's grip is at preventing a slip up? Losing one's finger is a horrible esp during a life or death situation. You can also consider carrying some fox labs or a surefire flashlight in addition to your knife. Get some training in krav maga wouldn't hurt either. Best of luck.
 
If you know how to hold a knife right (thumb is key!) and hang on tight you have to pound it into an impenetrable surface in order to slip down onto the blade. If you don't trust yourself to do this (which many people don't) then I agree; make a finger choil or some other similar structure a priority when shopping.

I know a guy who epoxied a key ring onto a folder he could stick his index finger through for this purpose, but it made digging the knife out of his pocket harder and it didn't even stay on. Interesting idea though.

I am curious about the axis lock since I have no personal experience with it. Anyone here own one?
 
If I couldn't carry a gun and had to carry a knife for SD I would want something as innocent looking as possible and still be useful.I wouldn't want a prosecuting attorney to be able to paint a picture of a knife nut who bought an expensive speciality killer knife who was just looking for trouble.
 
R.H.Clark said:
If I couldn't carry a gun and had to carry a knife for SD I would want something as innocent looking as possible and still be useful.I wouldn't want a prosecuting attorney to be able to paint a picture of a knife nut who bought an expensive speciality killer knife who was just looking for trouble.
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I do agree with you on this, you wouldn't want a nice big assisted opening knife or something that looks like a dirk just for stabbing things and then try to defend that.
 
The axis lock is one of the greatest developements in folder technology (my opinion). I have two benchmade griptilians and owned a rukus for a little while. The axis lock is awsome and if you can find the right thread or check out youtube, there are some videos of the axis lock being burried in sand, dirt, and used as a shovel, and it still locks up great. Just add water and it is good as new! I also have some sog knives with the arc-lock, which is sogs equivalent to benchmades axis lock, both test out at 1000 pounds. These are also very nice knives and among my favorite. I carry my sog vulcan around everywhere since I bought it.

If you want a 'real' self defense knife, go to http://sogknives.com/store/PE14.html Now this is a real self defense knife and can be found at a resonable price around ~$80. Let me know what you guys think.
 
I find it odd that after three pages, no one has yet mentioned the Spyderco Chinook, a knife designed for s/d. Seems like a natural choice imo.
 
gine said:
Blade friends, what is your opinion on a 3-4'' folder that would be best suited for sd purposes.Please don't include karambits or autos.
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Any tip-up carried folder that features Emerson's Wave feature. I currently have three. A Mini-Commander, along with a Waved Spyderco Delica and Endura models.

It does take a bit of practice, but you CAN train yourself to draw a waved folder, and have it open on your pocket seam with enough reliability to depend on it in a self-defense situation.

The Wave feature is the ultimate in a gross-motor opening. As soon as you draw the knife, it's open, locked, and ready to go! Just finish wrapping your fingers around the handle. The one thing I could never reconcile with other, non-waved, folders was the fact that I had to use fine motor skills to properly orient the knife in my hand, once opened. Thumb a tactical folder open, and the edge often times ends up facing up.

Or, use an inertia opening and hope your adrenaline pumping through you doesn't cause the knife to go flying out of your hand.

A waved folder fixes those problems. When It comes to S.D., I only carry waved folders. Often the Mini-Commander because the finger groove makes for a good lower guard.
 
The reason I was wondering about the axis lock is because I've seen those videos and it looks to me like a pretty impressive mechanism. It's good to hear that it's reliable as well.

That SOG knife has a nifty tip. I've never seen a blade like that before. It's kinda ironic that from a distance the coloration makes it seem as if it has a dull and rounded point even though its piercing ability is such a huge part of its design.
 
Blue Sky said:
I find it odd that after three pages, no one has yet mentioned the Spyderco Chinook, a knife designed for s/d. Seems like a natural choice imo.
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My first post in this thread links to a review of the chinook, although I didn't mention it (I was recommending something else on the same page). I don't know if a version of the chinook is available with a wave, but if one is I bet that would be a hit with many people here.

The spyerco civilian/matriarch is one of my least favorite knives.
 
Al Mar Sere or Mini Sere. Benchmade Emerson QC7( out of production) now an Emerson Knives QC7. I almost forgot, Spyderco Civilian.
 
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