Best all around wilderness cartridge(centerfire..sorry no .22LR)

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What's the best all around centerfire cartridge for the wilderness? My vote goes to the .30-06.
 
30-30. Proven, timeless, more than adequate. (and the lever action makes a cool sound)
 
Either the 30-06 or the 308 are more than enough for most game.
 
I tend to sway towards the .44mag. I carry a carbine/handgun combo. The .44 has always been my back woods favorite. It can be loaded up or down depending on your needs. It will not do everything well, but it does all I could ask of it.
 
If shotguns are allowed I'll choose the 12 gauge. If not, I guess I agree with K W on the .30-06.
 
I get the modern, pointed bullets along with the cool sound by carrying a Browning Lightning BLR on .308. Of course, the BLR is available in 30-06 too, along with other calibers. There is nothing wrong with 30-30 in a Winchester '94, though, and I have a Trapper carbine for those times I don't need to bring a rifle, but.....
 
BTW, I keep a .375 H&H around, for those times I want to fantasize about Alaska, Africa, and Australia. Someday....
 
You don't need a .375 H&H for anything in Australia except maybe the feral camels most hunters here use 22.250's, .222's, .243's or 30-30's they will take care of anything you are aloud to hunt
 
Oh, the .375 would be for feral cats! Seriously, I was thinking of Banteng and Buffalo. By the time I can afford Africa, the politics may change my mind about visiting.
 
300. Win Mag, can handload it to kill just about anything that walks.
Or if baring this I would go for the 45-70, read above for the handloading bit and like Robert H said it makes a very cool sound in a lever gun.
 
To my way of thinking the good ole 12G is hard to beat as far as wilderness survival.. Its not a rifle cart. BUT it can put anything from birds to bears in the pot, with a good assortment of slugs, buck, and bird shot..
Cant beat an 06 or .308 for a rifle cartridge, you can find ammo in the most backward towns on the map..
 
Plus, lever-action rifles are lefty-friendly. I shot from the right shoulder for years before I realized I was left-eye-dominant. Now, I can shoot MUCH better from my left shoulder. But, sometimes, it is more tactically wise to take a quick-and-dirty shot from from the "off" side, and having an ambidextrous rifle is the way to go, IMHO. Some say lever rifles don't work from the prone position. Well, it works for me, to tilt the rifle and work the lever. In the woods, or in an urban setting, I find myself with plenty of vertical cover, and and almost never using the prone position anyway. OK, so urban is not wilderness. But, you see, I hunt men much more often than any other animal.
 
Another vote for the 12 ga. here. From 1.5 oz slugs, dirt cheap and accurate .75 to 1.0 oz foster slugs, various sabots that are accurate to 175 yards, copper, lead or even steel sabot solids that will penetrate a long way in, and of course all the various sizes and hardnesses of shot, and all the other various loadings, even including poppers and tracers -- it is the one-gun choice for me... if forced to choose only one center-fire cartridge.

We don't have anything large or dangerous here in Delaware so I take my little wire stock .223 Daewoo as it is small, light, accurate, dependable and the ammo is light, cheap and easy to pack. Also, it is so much fun that even when I don't need it for anything, I shoot it for the fun of it.

Note: when researching bear hunting, and from speaking with several guides and a cook who worked with several over the years... I found several, perhaps most, of the long term guides carried a 12 ga pump loaded with shot for the first round and slugs after that. The shot was for pot-meat and the slugs to save the lives of the clients if needed. :eek:
 
If I didn't pick .22 Hornet in my M6, then I would go .30 caliber.

Which one? One of the midpowered .30's, so you can carry plenty of ammo, but still be able to knock down big game with one decent hit.

Many rounds will do, but my vote goes for 7.62x39 in an SKS. 240 rounds go around your waist in Chinese webgear, 10 more in the weapon, and you're ready to go. I would scarcely clean the weapon while "surviving."

Probably no pistol, though. If joined by someone else, I would prefer they had a lightweight scoped .22 rimfire boltaction, for the smaller stuff.

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My all time favorite is an old 410 shotgun and .22 rifle combo.

But since the .22 part is out of the question, I'll vote for the time proven 12 ga. shotgun.

Good luck,
Allen.
 
I'd say 30-30 if you are not going to go too big on the game scale. Anything bigger than the blacktail deer and it deserves the cleaner kill of a bigger gun.

Otherwise you can get 30-30 almost anywhere and its not thought of as a 'bad weapon.'

Gadget54
 
I prefer the 12Ga., but have owned and like the 30-06. A friend owns the 25-06 and I like that round too.
 
.30-06. If you reload, it's mighty versatile--from 100 or so grains all the way up to 220.
 
I can't possibly imagine an all around more versatile, more practical wilderness round than a 7mm-08. It shoots flatter than a 30-06; has enough power for most North American game and, in the hands of a very good shot, all North American game; is small enough to not mutilate most small game; is a relatively lightweight rifle offering, and practically anyone can shoot one because of the very little recoil it generates. There is no better round.
 
I'll add another vote for the 7mm-08. I'm working on a Ruger Mk.II now in that caliber and I think I'm going to love it. I have a few .308's and would add them to my list. Nothing larger could be needed in the woods I travel.
 
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