Best etched blade I have.

jb4570 said:
Thanks Larry & Richard for your input. Richard it will be interesting to hear what you find out on this topic.
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David Martin said:
This is real interesting . Thanks to all contributors for good historical input . DM
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:thumbup: Definately!
Thank you all!

jb4570 said:
In the old news letters I did see that Aurum was having financial issues at this time. There was info on the Chuck Buck gold etch 103. Aurum had the project for 1000 knives and after the first 200 were made, Buck stopped the project with Aurum and gave it to Baron. Aurum has the copyrights to the 1st Artwork so Baron had to do their own artwork. If I understand what was written there are two different versions of the Chuck Buck 103. 200 from Aurum and another 1000 from Baron. Cool stuff, I wonder if this also happened with the 4 color Eagle.
jb4570
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That may be true, but I had one of those Chuck Buck 103's which I believe EEE now has, but anyway I contacted Joe about that one, and while he didnt tell me why they were never completed, I thought the number was like 273 total made? I do not believe there are 1,200 of those 103's around. (I may be wrong, I am just going by a memory that is going :D)
 
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postfallsidaho said:
:thumbup: Definately!
Thank you all!



That may be true, but I had one of those Chuck Buck 103's which I believe EEE now has, but anyway I contacted Joe about that one, and while he didnt tell me why they were never completed, I thought the number was like 293 total made? I do not believe there are 1,200 of those 103's around. (I may be wrong, I am just going by a memory that is going :D)
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Hi Jim,

Thanks for your info on the CB 103. The BCCI LE list shows 273 made and they also said it was Aurum etching. The old news letters from Vern were in 88 & 89. Perhaps, Baron taking over the project did not take place. I was just wondering if there was another 103 variation to see:confused:.
jb4570
 
hkingdom said:
I do have one with a 1988 stamp. I will post a good photo later.

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Hi Jerry,

Thank you for posting your 1988 4 color Eagle. There you go folks, looks like this case has been solved. At least from the years made issue, 88, 89, and 90 year stamps on these so far. Anyone have a 91 year stamp...LOL.

Now we just sit back a wait for more info from Richard on who did the etching project. PBD very interesting thread you have here:thumbup:.
jb4570
 
Sorry Jb, Been gone... Here's my 89, 4 color Eagle 110... Looks like number 855/1000... Maybe they made them for 3 years or more... ITE ... :confused: ...


4 color Eagle 110....
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Nice one Dave, I'm glad you got one... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
ItsTooEarly said:
Sorry Jb, Been gone... Here's my 89, 4 color Eagle 110... Looks like number 855/1000... Maybe they made them for 3 years or more... ITE ... :confused: ...
Nice one Dave, I'm glad you got one... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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:D Mine is number 854/1000. Now that presents another question???? Mine's number is lower by 1 than yours but has the '90 blade. It appears that blades could have been selected at random with out regard for the date stamp when the etch was applied.

Since the '90 catalog shows the knife as a "new item" that year, is it just possible that all were made in '90 (or late '89 as '90 blades were already in production) using blades picked at random? That would explain somethings.

Hkingdom, what number is your's?


Thanks to all for the input. :thumbup:
 
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Interesting thread guys! GREAT pics also! I love that etch and handle on this 110!
So 20 years ago 1,000 of these were made. Shouldnt be too hard to find one more, right? :D

JB, I edited my post. 273 sorry ;)
 
I checked my records. I turns out my Special Projects list has Aurum as the etcher by mistake. There is no record of Aurum having done the etch but I have a copy of a FAX from Baron Technology, Inc of Trumbull, CT with the art work on it so I assume Baron did the work. I will update my SP list. Hope that helps.
 
Plumberdv said:
Hmmm, the plot thickens. A four color etch with no number. So now the question is how many were numbered and how many not? And why not? :confused:
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Dave, I think Buck does that alot with their limited edition knives. You can almost always find "overruns" and "SP" knives that are not numbered. I believe they have extra blades laying around and still build them. OR the customer that ordered them, orders more afterwards. Kind of like your MS 192 pictured in the other thread. I had several 119's over the years where the L.E. version was numbered and others that were identical without any number. Especially like the 100 year cutout 119's and the american flag cutout. Pretty much how Larry explained it I guess (only different LOL)

I would bet that Joe has the production numbers somewhere in his records?
 
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Plumberdv said:
Hmmm, the plot thickens. A four color etch with no number. So now the question is how many were numbered and how many not? And why not? :confused:
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I think Larry and Jim have hit the nail on the head about the number issue. The knife that Jerry has could also be from the first knives in the project for Bucks approval of the artwork & etch appearance. This thread has been great and changed the Buck LE/SO history list's....that is way cool, Thanks Richard.

Also in post 18 it is stated that the BCCI news letter from March of 1989 shows these 4 color Eagle 110's are "available" at buck dealers. So my take on that is if they were at Dealers by March of 89 the project had to have started in 88.

As for haw many were numbered and how many were not:eek::confused:. Now that's a good question and one I'm sure we will never know for sure. What I want to know is are there any over runs with different scales that are form the factory and not custom mod's:rolleyes:
jb4570
 
jb4570 said:
What I want to know is are there any over runs with different scales that are form the factory and not custom mod's:rolleyes:
jb4570
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That's a good Question JB, about different scales... :thumbup: ...

I sure would love to find just the blade, for my Blade Collection... :D ...

ItsTooEarly...
 
Since the '90 catalog shows the knife as a "new item" that year, is it just possible that all were made in '90 (or late '89 as '90 blades were already in production) using blades picked at random? That would explain somethings.
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Not only explains some things......it's the answer.

;)
 
BG42EDGE said:
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Since the '90 catalog shows the knife as a "new item" that year, is it just possible that all were made in '90 (or late '89 as '90 blades were already in production) using blades picked at random? That would explain somethings.

Not only explains some things......it's the answer.

;)
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Not if some these knives were in Buck's dealers hands for sale in March of 1989:thumbup: This was a Buck LE issued knife and not a customer special order knife. I'm sure Buck learned a whole lot from their first LE the Spirit of 76 knife that took almost 30 years to use up all of the blades. What do I mean by this.....if you are going to have a limited run of 1000 knives only make them in short runs of maybe 250 each time, that way you don't get stuck with hundreds of knives if the project is a flop. We see this often as a LE/SO run did not make the full amount that was projected for the run.
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jb4570 said:
. I'm sure Buck learned a whole lot from their first LE the Spirit of 76 knife that took almost 30 years to use up all of the blades. What do I mean by this.....if you are going to have a limited run of 1000 knives only make them in short runs of maybe 250 each time, that way you don't get stuck with hundreds of knives if the project is a flop. We see this often as a LE/SO run did not make the full amount that was projected for the run.
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John,
You are dead-on correct.
Larry
 
if you are going to have a limited run of 1000 knives only make them in short runs of maybe 250 each time, that way you don't get stuck with hundreds of knives if the project is a flop.
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Remember that the question was:

how does a 1990 blade get on a 1988 LE knife?
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And the answer is, "It didn't. It is not a 1988 knife. Knives are never fitted with blades that have not yet been manufactured. Knives built in 1988 are never fitted with blades made in 1990."

Thinking TOO far outside the box becomes science fiction.

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I'm still puzzled by two things:

#1-Why would the knife be listed in the 1990 catalog as a new item if it was on dealers shelves in March of '89.

#2- Why would ITE's 1989 blade have a serial number higher (only by 1 but still higher) than the serial number on my 1990 blade.
 
Plumberdv said:
I'm still puzzled by two things:

#1-Why would the knife be listed in the 1990 catalog as a new item if it was on dealers shelves in March of '89.

#2- Why would ITE's 1989 blade have a serial number higher (only by 1 but still higher) than the serial number on my 1990 blade.
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Oh, that.

Well, that actually was due to the use of the Buck time machine.

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