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Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
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Best overall pistol for my scenario?
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kamagong
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Do you want a smooth or checkered front strap? If smooth, check out the Concept II. The Premier II with fixed sights is the same gun, only with checkering.
If you want night sights, take a look at the Custom Carry, Thunder Ranch Special, or Ultimate Tactical Carry.
If you want night sights, take a look at the Custom Carry, Thunder Ranch Special, or Ultimate Tactical Carry.
http://www.gunblast.com/WBell_SW-M22TR.htm
May consider this if you are not sure you will go the 1911 route.
Not to long ago you could get good deals on them- not sure about now.
May consider this if you are not sure you will go the 1911 route.
Not to long ago you could get good deals on them- not sure about now.
Thanks, I'll be on the look out for a Thunder Ranch Special.
PM sent, thanks man I appreciate all the help.
I think it's awesome that you're ordering a premium 1911 as your first and only gun. If you are going to get a gun to hold you over for the wait, though, it's a great opportunity to buy a $500+/- pistol and a bunch of ammo and range time rather than a $1,600 Baer. I understand the appeal of owning a nicer product, and I'm fortunate to own a couple of nice customs in addition to my working guns, but getting some experience and training is more important than pride of ownership right now. Consider the polymers (XD45 5" would be my choice for a polymer "practice 1911"), a used Springfield or Taurus 1911, a S&W 4506, etc. If you buy used and sell in the same condition you can sometimes break even.
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Recoil is a factor of bullet weight COMBINED with bullet velocity, and velocity is directly related to chamber pressure.
I like the loaded model Springfield makes, but for 4-5 hundred more you can get what is essentially a custom gun in the TRP. I just think that most people who try the 1911 end up wanting a higher quality gun after a while. With the TRP you are there right from the get go and it's half the cost of a high end 1911.
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The Professional model is extremely hard to find and there is a very long wait. I forgot to mention in my previous post about the TRP that it is built on a National Match frame and slide to boot. There really are diminished returns when you compare the two guns Pro/TRP, they are practically the same. The main difference is that S.A. doesn't use the custom shop to hand fit the parts, they use gunsmiths that work there and are still very good. This link may help.
http://pistols.gunreviewspot.com/1911-trp-pistol/
I have a Wilson, they are nice guns. It was the one I used when I shot IDPA. Although, I wouldn't use a 2k+ gun for self defense. Mainly because if you do have to use it, you don't know if you will ever see it again.
If you are newish to guns I would get a 9mm. Ammo is cheaper and easier to learn with vs say a .45. I like the Springfield Armory XDM models. If you are wanting a .45 you could get a XDM in .45 and 9mm and still come in on the low side of your budget.
If a semi - custom 1911 is what you are wanting also check out Ed Brown.
If you are newish to guns I would get a 9mm. Ammo is cheaper and easier to learn with vs say a .45. I like the Springfield Armory XDM models. If you are wanting a .45 you could get a XDM in .45 and 9mm and still come in on the low side of your budget.
If a semi - custom 1911 is what you are wanting also check out Ed Brown.
I was set on the Les Baer TRS. I just returned from a local gunshop to get a feel for it before actually purchasing it. They didn't have the TRS but they had 3 other similar models. I really liked them a lot, but then the gentleman helping me says "oh I didn't know we had an Ed Brown" and proceeded to show me. Holy Smokes that felt like a glove in my medium-sized hand! It felt so comfortable and perfect, and all of a sudden the Les Baer felt bulky to me, arghhhh!!!!
I believe it was a Kobra. And the finishing was top notch.
I believe it was a Kobra. And the finishing was top notch.
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See...told you if you end up handling a few of them, you'll end up finding one that speaks to you.
Was it a full size 1911? Ed Brown is known for their Kobra texturing. So Ed Brown to tide you over until you get a PD Scout or something like that? Or Ed Brown as final choice?
I think a bunch of us are vicariously watching to see what your final gun choice is since many of us don't have that kind of budget. 2.3k is the most expensive firearm in my possession. Will be for many years until I finish my phD. Then I will reward myself just as I awarded myself with the 2.3k CZ after starting grad school.
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Your experience is a perfect illustration of why it is important to do your research on a purchase like this. There are many manufacturers making 1911s these days, and each one makes their guns a little different. Not immediately apparent in pictures, but quite noticeable when you pick them up. What appeals to you might not to me and vice versa. You found the Baer bulky; I enjoy their solidity and tank-like feel. I really like how the slide and frame feel like a single piece of steel when the gun is in battery. Different strokes...
It's a great time to be a 1911 fan.
That's the one except the slide was matte black. Yes, full size 911. I still want good gun that is relatively available to become proficient with, get trainings, and plenty of range time, until I figure out what I really want in a custom.See...told you if you end up handling a few of them, you'll end up finding one that speaks to you.
Was it a full size 1911? Ed Brown is known for their Kobra texturing. So Ed Brown to tide you over until you get a PD Scout or something like that? Or Ed Brown as final choice?
I think a bunch of us are vicariously watching to see what your final gun choice is since many of us don't have that kind of budget. 2.3k is the most expensive firearm in my possession. Will be for many years until I finish my phD. Then I will reward myself just as I awarded myself with the 2.3k CZ after starting grad school.
The Kobra sings very loudly at the moment
Good luck with your schooling man!
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Exactly why I love my 2013 model CZ Custom Shop Accu-shadow. Built like a tank, reliable as all hell, and still good for 2 3/8 inch at 50 yards.
That's the one except the slide was matte black. I still want good gun that is relatively available to become proficient with, get trainings, and plenty of range time, until I figure out what I really want in a custom.
The Kobra sings very loudly at the moment
A good choice. You could certainly have done worse. I think it's a smart idea sticking with the platform. You're pretty set on wanting a 1911. Might as well train on a 1911. In full size form in a steel frame, the .45 is pretty tame actually.
Staying with one platform means when you do get the custom (I say get on the wait list now since you'll probably wait a year or more before you get it), you'll take very little time to become familiar with the new gun since it's the same platform.
Even if you end up loving the Kobra so much, people know that customs take months to years before they get delivered. You could still place an order for a custom, take delivery of it, and if you don't like it by the time you have it in your hands, you can sell it and break even.
That reminds me, Darrel Ralph owes me a custom knife that I commissioned about 1.5 years ago, but that is neither here nor there....
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So true, both are great guns. The Baers were solid like a tank and really awesome, but the Ed Brown, at least to my novice eyes, feels a little more refined in the finishing. I'm still kind of on the fence.
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Actually velocity is directly related to bullet weight. Chamber pressure stays the same. Recoil is a transfer of mass, what you are pushing out is pushing back. Yes, the faster its moving typically means more recoil but that goes back to moving mass. The bullet weight changes but you still cannot exceed the max chamber pressure for the cartridge.
I have a Wilson Combat
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And I have another being built now on a Colt with Wilson and Brown parts
But ............ These days as I mentioned I carry mostly revolvers
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Thank you
On those Scandium Ti Guns Ivory would crack. Those are Custom Badgers made of White Linen Micarta