BG-42 steel in Buck Knives

BG42EDGE said:
Glad to be able to entertain you two.

:D

What I find funny is Joe saying there was some good reason they quit using BG-42......but they forgot what it was.

I guess I'd be annoyed too--if I had to give an explanation like that.








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"Early in life I had to choose between arrogance and hypocritical humility. I chose arrogance and have seen no occasion to change."

Ring any bells there BG?:)
 
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They already offered it and those that wanted it bought it i would guess.I have a few and don't see anything special about the bg-42,same as s30 v in my eyes,been using both for some time ,i can't see any difference .
 
As far as I'm concerned, Buck doesn't owe anyone an explaination for their business decisions. That we get any at all is a privilege, not a right.
 
And I think they should read this whole thread and pay attention to their customers.

That's what any company owes its customers.

And if Buck is history in five years.....we'll know why.

:)
 
ah ha
i gots the ansswer alrighty !!!
the bg42 st3eel is bearing grade steel and de govt
\in its wisdom seen us useing it all fer blades ..
well dey has this war goin on so they need it when they wants it
and no want de sand folks to buy it for centerfuages ....
so they put a claim in on it all ... or most of it any way
it become pricy for what busness could get
if they could get it .. i do recall that was the reason buck quit carring it
could not get it ...
as to busness.... us little one or two or 4 knife buyers dont make enugh for buck
and we here is a select few that are knife savy !!!
it is the buyers that order 200 to 2000 or more knives that make
pay roll in post falls
the ave perwson what buys a knife has no idea what is in it ...
dont care either
but ya knows what bg .. ya can get any thin ya wants at allaces restxx xoopd wrong song
you can get your bg 42 blades easly by ...
ta da.... ordering them!!
simply call customer serivce and put your order in for 200 or more
and pay the charge and you will get them by and by
then you can make a buck selling your extreamly limited
custom bucks with 42 steel stamped like you like them
to those of us that might order one or tow...
so ... it is easy to get what you want
jest put your money were your mouth is !!!
 
Ya Dave, I remember reading some threads about that back in the day. BG42 was in short supply due to some military contracts or something. That was about the same time S30V was coming onto the scene. Logically, Buck transitioned from BG42 to S30V. I am partial to my BG42 blades because they are hard to get these days but both are great steels. I'm just happy that Buck offers such classic knives like the 110 in a premium steel. So long as one of the two is available, I'm happy.
Sure would love to see D2 in the custom shop some day ;) but that does not meen I won't buy S30V in the mean time.
 
I have several BG-42 CS 110s, including the jigged/fg water buffalo scaled, a pair of 20th Anniversary, and an el-cheapo - $84 w s/h CS with Fiji orange - all with NS bolsters.

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I ended up with two 20th Anniv closeouts because I bought one for my son for Christmas - who informed me he didn't like the 110 - so I had to keep it... poor me!

I think there is a reason a high end user, like CRK, left BG-42 for S30V. Was it availability - or suitability? Seriously - a different heat treat for the hard ball bearing steel vs the designed from the get-go as a cutlery steel, CR made his choice. He has since started converting over to S35VN... gotta be a message there. From my limited experience - at least with the Spyderco Sharpmaker's white files - the S30V is easier to re-edge to a servceable edge - BG-42 aint fun! Oddly, the newer Bohler steels, like M390 and N690, at least one of which was made initially for fine injection molding plastics dies, are also easier to re-edge. I have a couple of S35VN knives now - but I haven't needed to re-edge them - yet.

Of course, the easiest to re-edge - all the way to a hair-splitter - is Buck's 420HC. Obviously, it doesn't hold it like CPM154 or S30V. My only 'bad' experience with S30V was on a Gerber Freeman in stag - the original, possibly too thin, edge rolled while whittling some green soft maple. Resharpened, it is fine now. I guess I prefer S30V over all steels for general use, although those Austrian steels are catching up. I can take or leave BG-42 - pretty much like I do D2, which is actually less tolerant of moisture exposure. I doubt I'd buy a Buck in BG-42... unless it was a 124, of course! YMMV.

Stainz
 
you can get your bg 42 blades easly by ...
ta da.... ordering them!!
simply call customer serivce and put your order in for 200 or more
and pay the charge and you will get them by and by
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But Dave......I may WANT 200, but--I only need about ten!!

:D
 
well dey has this war goin on so they need it when they wants it
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Well, the war is winding down to nothing, so unless Obama invades Iran in order to get re-elected......I'd say that "the government took all that good BG-42" excuse is not real pertinent anymore.

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hee hee hee o-bam-us will do waht ever he can to bget back at us country loveing gun toten knife whealding
con-ser-a-tives .. ifn he has to do away with our fav steel .. he will ... i guess
yup i woods not put it past his countrys preferances and
he will attack Israle when they bomb iran's nuc bomb makeing places
seems he likes muslums best fer some reason ...
after all they only wanted nirv'e gas for self protection ... right?
 
Yeah, I cud easy dubbl my money on the
BGs I gots but I luvs dem wayyy tomuch.

You an me knows Buck wion't never make nother ones.
 
110 Dave hit on some good points. BG42 is a stainless version of M50, a high speed bearing steel. It's an ingot ( not powder like S30V or CPM 154) steel made by Latrobe and it's known for it's purity and cleanness. Vim/Var processing is responsible for this and this clean, tough, wear resistant steel is used a lot in the aerospace industry. Latrobe has a reputation of not really giving a flip about knife makers and small orders ( 2,000 lbs is a small order. A heat is appx. 50,000 to 80,000 lbs). It's very expensive, and there is a waiting time of a year or more for the steel.

Carpenter has bought out Latrobe. They are offering the BG42 steel in powder form ( like S30V, etc.) in their CTS line of steels designed for the knife industry. http://www.cartech.com/whatsnew.aspx?id=3684

The steel that will be the BG42 clone made with the 2/3rd generation powder process is called CTS-B75. It should be great stuff, and easier to work for the manufacturer, less chippy, and all the great things the powder process is known for.

There is one knife company planning a run of knives in this steel to test it out at a later date. I'm sure there will be more.

Noting that the CTS line of powder knife steels also covers some other classics like 440C, 52100, 440XH ( stainless D2 ) and several more.

Lastly, I wouldn't count on the Mantis knife listed as using BG42 actually having real BG42 blades. :)

Joe
 
Thank God there's plenty of good old classic knives with real steel left on e-Bay.

:)
 
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