BG42 vs S30V

I havent had a bg42 seb but I do have a bg42 buck 110 and I must say I am not a fan of it. In my experience it chips easily but of course could very well be an isolated example. I also have no ideahow CR did his bg42 in comparison to bucks. In any case i have been happy with my s30v. Just the other day I cut through a metal wire thinking it was just a rope (opps =P) and my edge was fine. No chips just a slight bit of dulling which was fixed in a sec.

Love my sebbie--best folder i have ever owned
 
Let me ask this in a different way. If you have to pay $100 more for a BG42 (since they are no longer in production) would you pay for the difference.

Thanks,

Huan
 
hbui said:
Let me ask this in a different way. If you have to pay $100 more for a BG42 (since they are no longer in production) would you pay for the difference.

Thanks,

Huan
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Maybe not $100 more, because the S30's are fine, but given the choice I would always go BG-42 over S30. I did pay more for all the BG-42 I have owned, not +$100 but maybe +$70... YMMV :cool:
 
I don't think there's that much real difference. I've been carrying/using/sharpening a BG Sebenza for around 9 years, and an S30V for about 3 years.

If anything, it seems like the S30V takes a slightly better edge, and is easier to restore on a strop. I don't think I can really tell much difference in terms of how long the blade holds its edge.

I was initially suspicious of the S30V. I think the S30V may take a sharpening or two to come into its own. Some have suggested that might be a manifestation of CRK's heat treat. I don't recall that being the case with my BG, but it's been a while.

Really... I would not be concerned about the S30V for a real-world user blade.
 
I've had both...six of one, half dozen of the other as far as I'm concerned. Either version of the Sebenza will outlive us all, so don't worry about it so much.
 
So-Lo said:
I'd love to know how much experience you have using a BG-42 sebenza or if this is just you bullshitting us again from what you have read.


I have both, I have used both a LOT, I have sharpened BOTH a LOT! I find the BG-42 holds a edge much longer... Also keeps that razor edge longer, you know the one where most steels lose it after one or two cardboard boxes. It is a tad harder to sharpen, well not really "harder," but it takes a little longer. It will take a better polish... No problems with either CRK's S30V or BG-42... but given a choice I would pick BG-42 everytime because it IS BETTER!!!

It's not placebo, it really is better ;)
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Please link me to when I have bullshitted you. :jerkit:

You are right though, Ive never had a BG-42 Sebenza, you are entitled to your own opinion; so am I. The forum is a place where you learn new things about knives. You dont have to pull everything out of your own ass. That being said, its a true phenomenon for some people to cherish things they do not have or rare.
 
BlazenGem said:
Please link me to when I have bullshitted you. :jerkit:

You are right though, Ive never had a BG-42 Sebenza
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No need to link, it's in the quote above in red :)


You have never had/used/sharpened a BG-42 sebenza... how would you draw the conclusion that it's a placebo effect? :confused:
 
No experience with BG42.

I use and carry a a large and small sebbie both with S30V. When I first got the large it did chip cutting through a plastic strap. I sharpened the chip out and it has been good ever since (Around 2 years now). No such issues with the small one which sees harder use.

I agree with some comments about having to take care when sharpening, you need to do it correctly and finish with light strokes for a good edge. I tend to strop regularly so it is always quite sharp. When a sharpen is required I pull out the water stones.

I'm sure the BG42 must be good as so many people seem to like it but I would not hesitate recommending the sebbies with the current S30V steel.
 
hbui said:
Let me ask this in a different way. If you have to pay $100 more for a BG42 (since they are no longer in production) would you pay for the difference.

Thanks,

Huan
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Heck no. Not unless it was an upgrade to a UG, but not if the same Ti slabs.
If your wanting it for collection just to have a BG42 I may give $50 more, but if your going to use it get the S30V for $100 less. CRK's S30V is a great steel.
 
I'd have to agree that BG-42 is much better for all the reasons mentioned by So-Lo.

Love my BG-42 and will never get rid of it.

aj
 
tsiloics said:
Yeah... I meant that they were all produced in the same steel and switched at the same time - in both cases.
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When I went back and read this thread this morning I seen it was your post :foot:

I was not really thinking, anyways your post is right :) Yes all sebenzas were BG-42 before S30... Well all new sebenzas :D

LOLz :D
 
Harry Callahan said:
I don't have any experience with CRK's use of BG42 but I will say that their use of S30V leaves something to be desired. In my opinion they run it a little too soft. Nasty wire edge when sharpening. I've had to "learn" it. Now that I've mastered avoiding that rolled edge when sharpening I'm overall satisfied with the edge holding and performance. It just makes sharpening a real hassle. It would be nice if you could sit down to an old re-run of Cheers and give the ol' Seb a few strokes on the white stones. Not in the real world. You have to really pay attention to what you're doing and make those final strokes almost non-exsistant pressure.

I hate the recent developments with Crucible Steel going broke and being auctioned off. That makes the future of S30V uncertain. Which, in Spyderco's case is devastating to say the least. But in CRK's case is could almost be a blessing in disguise. It may force them to look at a new blade steel. And they may just heat treat it properly. :foot:
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:thumbup: Larry
 
BlazenGem said:
Please link me to when I have bullshitted you. :jerkit:

You are right though, Ive never had a BG-42 Sebenza, you are entitled to your own opinion; so am I. The forum is a place where you learn new things about knives. You dont have to pull everything out of your own ass. That being said, its a true phenomenon for some people to cherish things they do not have or rare.
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:foot:
 
I just bought my first S30V Sebenza. Large '21'. I've owned Sebenzas since the mid 90's, have had small and large in ATS-34 and BG-42. The Bg42 being considerably harder to sharpen and holding a slightly better edge. The ATS-34 knives were fine and I had no problems with that steel. I've used all the Sebenzas that I've had except for some rare ones, some a little and some a lot. No problems. Probably prefer the BG-42 a little bit overall.

Back to the S30V knife. I've been on the prowl for a BG-42 knife, or another custom, but had a chance to check out this new "21" in person and was very impressed with the way this knife came together. It's been a long time since I bought a brand new Sebenza, but this knife was as precise as any I've had. Smooth, centered, great detent, perfect lockup, nice grinds. Also, by far, the sharpest out of the box Sebenza I've ever seen. So I bought it. I look forward to seeing how I like the S30V.

FWIW, I believe that if you develop some skill at sharpening, keep the edge sharp with fairly frequent minor touchup, avoiding any significant or unnecessary metal removal, be a little choosy about what you cut, (no car doors, etc....), all these steels are just fine.

Pete
 
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