Big Surprise Tonight

[Messersmith]

Plowboy: The Mrs and I discovered the same thing a few months ago, Chinese apple juice. We promptly returned it and bought some grown and processed in Pennsylvania. There was a negligible difference in price.

 

[plowboy]

Messersmith, glad to hear you returned the juice.

We are now looking at the country of orgin on our foods too. No more apple juice from China in our home.

By the way, if you buy fish you may want to check the label on it too. We had some salmon one night that tasted different. We dug the wrapper out of the garbage and...you got it... it was from China.

That said, I really love those custom 110s coming from Buck's shop up in Idaho.

 

[bdws1975]

Chinese stuff sucks. I have never personally had a knife from china that felt anything more than a piece of shit between two handles.



Perhaps we should let our kids play with some more of their tainted toys.

 

[silenthunterstudios]

There is a sporting goods store in Hanover PA that always has the made in USA stockmen on hand, the 301 and 303. Delrin handles etc. I have bought the large and small stockmen, they are my favorites, after the Queen cocobolo models I have seen. I don't have any right now, but I might just head up their this weekend to get a 301 and 303. These knives are great, but I have become a steel snob. I would like to see the 301 and 303 offered in something better than 420HC.

When the Chinese slippies first came out, they were offered in 440C, I bought those, but got rid of them. What little use I got out of them, was pretty good. Got one of the Chinese 420HC models for my little brother, not bad. Picked up a Chinese large stockman recently for a friend, fit and finish were really off. Took it back and gave him an older stockman I had picked up.

As for things made in China, I have learned that just because its cheaper doesn't mean its better. If I can get it cheap, and its well made, great. But if I have to pay the extra money for something that will out last me, as opposed to something that I will have to replace multiple times before I take the last train out, I will pay the extra money now.

BTW, those models made in China look like some really good designs that Buck should bring back to their USA made line.

 

[A.P.F.]

Chinese apple juice! I would love to see a chemical analysis of that stuff. You could probably spray it on plants to kill aphids. :barf:

 

[plowboy]

Chinese apple juice! I would love to see a chemical analysis of that stuff. You could probably spray it on plants to kill aphids. :barf:

My bald head has been glowing since I drank the stuff. Unlike Messersmith, I didn't return the juice, but rather drank it. Of course my wife and I agreed we would be careful to check the labels of our juice and other food stuffs from then on and not buy anymore juice or food from China.

Yea, the bald head is glowing....kinda like the smiley face below.

 

[vwb563]

trust me, i would rather buy american when ever i can but i recently purchased a buck 373 pocket knife not knowing it was made in china. at first i thought to myself, im sending this darn thing back but the more i looked at it the more impressed i was. it was constructed and finished to typical buck quality and if it hadn't said china on the blade i would have thought it was american made. but i decided to keep it and test it out. using it around the house for several days and doing quite a bit of whittling with it i could not detect any difference in the edge holding ability of it and other american made bucks i have used in the past. its edge holding was outstanding and on par with any american made buck knife ive used. and like i already said, fit & finish was typical buck fantastic. i guess as bad as i hate to admit it this is a great knife for the money spent. the same knife american made would have cost at least 50% or more than this one cost me.,,,VWB.

 

[topol]

We have added American Flags on all US made product in our catalog and on our website to highlight them. I will have a discussion with Marketing on in-store packaging as well.

Would be interesting (not to mention more truthful) if you not only put little U.S. flags on the American made knives but also put little Chinese flags in the advertising and on packaging of the knives made in China.....wonder if you would sell as many "China made". My guess is that people would avoid them as they would avoid Chinese toothpaste and tires and toys and......

 

[Buckaholic]

... We had some salmon one night that tasted different. We dug the wrapper out of the garbage and...you got it... it was from China.
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PB...

Maybe it wasn't the fish that tasted odd...but the chinese soy sauce you put on it that is made with human hair. Just a thought.
Try the human placenta soup next time instead (read news article linked below).

But, so far, my one and LAST ChiBuck (198 Pilot) hasn't leaked mercury nor have I exhibited signs of lead poisioning (others may disagree)...so I must believe that the plants in China that mfg Buck knives are of a much higher quality given the 1,321,851,888 peeps there (July 2007 est.). It must be a very select operation.

http://www.danwei.org/internet/soy_sauce_made_from_human_hair.php

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19650917/site/newsweek/page/0/

 

[A.P.F.]

PB...

Maybe it wasn't the fish that tasted odd...but the chinese soy sauce you put on it that is made with human hair. Just a thought.
Try the human placenta soup next time instead (read news article linked below).

Aaaarg! I may never be the same again. I knew things were bad over there, but I never imagined they were that bad. Rest assured that I will be checking every cotton pick'n label I see from now on.

As for Chinese Bucks, I guess if the QC is there, and I can rationalize that the profits contribute to Buck's business strategy, I may try one out.

 

[Buckaholic]

Aaaarg! I may never be the same again. I knew things were bad over there, but I never imagined they were that bad. Rest assured that I will be checking every cotton pick'n label I see from now on.

As for Chinese Bucks, I guess if the QC is there, and I can rationalize that the profits contribute to Buck's business strategy, I may try one out.

Yeah, kine gross.

BUT, I have stated before I can't find a single flaw with the 198 Pilot ChiBuck that I have.
I purchased it as an uninformed consumer. Only when I took it outta the clam pack did I see it on the tang.
For me, it's not the outsourcing (even though I just got an "offer" from my employer for early retirement, they've been bagging a lot of US employees, and plan to hire 20,000 in India and Brazil)...
it's the "who" we are sleeping with.

I am going to quit posting on this topic else I get nun-slapped with a ruler again.

 

[gd526]

Sorry to hear the wrecking ball rolled up to you, 'Goose. Like you, I would just as soon have of choice of ...ah...'partners'. My towns' largest employer has turned to the land of the cobra/malaria/scared cow. Not much in the way of jobs here either.
Dave

 

[plowboy]

Buckaholic,

I don't necessarily disagree that there are some fine knives coming out of China. I here great things about the Spyderco Byrds, but I'm not buying on principle. And that's my principle...doesn't have to be yours. Actually, I'm trained as an economist and earned a Ph.D. in that dismal science, so I understand all of the theory about comparative and absolute advantange. Trade certainly has it's benefits. The last few years, however, have led me to think less about pure economic gains and more about preserving America as I want it to be. I don't know...really, I just don't know anymore. I just want America to be free, strong and united....seems we are losing ground on all of these fronts. Makes me a bit sad.

And like you, Buckaholic, I'm done posting to this thread.

 

[Mike Kerins]

The last few years, however, have led me to think less about pure economic gains and more about preserving America as I want it to be. I don't know...really, I just don't know anymore. I just want America to be free, strong and united....seems we are losing ground on all of these fronts. Makes me a bit sad.

Just my two cents....The main point of mine about trying to buy American is the potential loss of industrial infrastructure. Can you imagine how WWII would have gone if most of our industry had been outsourced to third world countries and we couldn't have geared up to start producing tanks and ships? Buying American is about more than just jobs. It's about our strength as a nation. Think about it.

 

[A.P.F.]

I followed a thread some time ago with a similar theme to this one. One fellow posted that he doesn't buy Chinese because every penny spent there may end up coming back as a rocket. At first I laughed, but after some thought, I am not laughing so much anymore.