BK-2 Vs. Toyotoa HiLux

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It was a struggle, and both came out of it battered, but bottom line is that both survived.

. The Toyota HiLux is a fine truck. Sturdy, reliable, and generally capable of punching above its weight - not altogether dissimilar to the BK-2. Every once in a while, though, both the truck and the BK2 can have tough days.
. I found myself driving a HiLux with a badly damaged skid plate, deep in the forest, maybe not out a walking distance from civilization, but way out of cellphone range and too far out to get back before nightfall. The truck was fine, really, but the noise of metal scraping along the ground was horrible, it was getting hung up in mud pits, and I just couldn't take the risk that the damaged plate would swing around and cut the sidewall of a tire.
. The thing had to come off, but although it was hanging from a single bolt, that bolt was bent and obstructed. I found myself thinking, "man, if only I had a sharpened prybar..." "..oh wait!". A BK-3 or an actual prybar would have been ideal, but I usually carry a BK-2 in my pack and that was going to have to do.
. My original plan was to wedge the Campanion into the bracket attaching the skid plate to the truck, torque it back and forth, and pop the spot welds that holding the piece together. I tried this, but the welds held and the bracket just bent wide enough as to render my twisting ineffectual. So, I decided to use the knife to pry the sheet metal free. Basically, to apply enough force to deform the hole through which the bolt passed and allow the washer and bolt head to slip through.
. Now, let me be VERY CLEAR: I know that a knife, even a beast like the BK-2, is NOT a prybar. That said, I did not buy the BK-2 for its ability to slice tomatoes. It often makes sense for me to carry a few small an versatile items. Whether the BK-2 was designed for prying or not, I carry it, in part, because it has that capability. I wouldn't even call what I did knife abuse. I used the knife, hard, and knowingly took on the risks of it beig damaged. I bought a Becker, not because it would be invincible, but because I knew it would be a solid performer, and because it was inexpensive enough that I wouldn't flinch before using it to do something stupid, like pry the skid plate off of a truck (ok, maybe I flinched a little - I love my BK-2).
. Back to the truck, the mud, and the twisted metal. I wedged the knife above the plate and started prying. Almost immediately, and before I could apply much force (maybe 25 lb at the base of the handle, with the fulcrum being at the center of the blade), I heard a popping sound and felt a little give. The very tip of the knife had snapped off. I have to say, despite the silliness of using a knife like this, I didn't expect it to break this easily, in this way. I had a brief thought about the heat treat being a little off at the tip; I would have sacrificed a little edge retention to reduce the brittleness in this vulnerable area, but then got back to work.
. After about five minutes, and some good 'ole fashioned grunting, I had bent the plate halfway around the bolt head. I grabbed a shovel from the bed of the truck (I had expected to get stuck in the mud at least once), and a few good whacks later, the skid plate slipped over the bolt head and washer and fell free.
. I drove back in relative silence, my knife a bit dinged up and the skid plate in the back of the truck. Sure, I'm still a little sad that I hurt my knife, but there is also some satisfaction that comes along with using a tool to the edge of its capabilities. After all, the BK-2 did get me back safely.

Here is a shot of the damage to the tip, and the dings in my precious edge.


The truck:


The knife:


The flipside:
 
Could the shovel have done the same job? Sorry to say that. Maybe you can make it a clip point now and make it look sweet
 
Could the shovel have done the same job? Sorry to say that. Maybe you can make it a clip point now and make it look sweet

Unfortunately the shovel was full sized and wouldn't fit where it needed to be for the initial prying.
Yeah, I was thinking of tuning it into a spearpoint.
 
Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan
 
Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan

Class Act :thumbup:
 
Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan

And that is one of the reasons we love these knives.
 
Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan

And yet another perfect post that belongs in the "why we buy beckers" thread
 
Rub a little spit on it. It'll be fine. ;)

Great post. Sorry about the BK2 - and about your HiLux.

I like the idea of grinding it down into a stubby BK2 - a bit shorter but every bit as tough.
 
Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan

Very rare these days will you find this type of service. A true gentleman. I tip my hat to you Ethan.
 
Wow - that's one hell of a warrantee! The maker offering to replace a busted knife, just because! You don't get that with any knife. Either way having a war wounded BK2 is great too! It's such an amazing knife!
 
Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan

Your undying support for your designs, supporters and fans never cease to surprise me and is the main reason I have so many beckers. Other manufactures should take lessons from you. Good to know that if we travel down the road to misadventure we have support.

Sorry to the op about the broken tip. Sometimes crap just happens however you did what had to be done and if I was in the same situation I would do the same. I have a 3 and a 4 in my side by side in the event my actions exceed my talent and I get stuck or broke down.... and yes that happens a lot :cool:
 
We all know Beckers are tough as woodpecker lips, the Toyota Hilux is no slouch either.

[video]https://youtu.be/1Sn9L94YrNk[/video]
 
The bad news is the tip broke. The good news is it's repairable with a little work. The best news is you got of the boonies without having to wear the soles off your boots. I would take a broken tip over blisters/twisted ankles/tow truck in the boonies fee.
 
that'll grind right out.
Also, the resulting tip will be tougher if you are just not-careful enough to let it warm to about 550-600F or so.
 
First of all, thanks Ethan, that's above and beyond good customer service!

But I'm in a bit of a bind here:
. I'd love to have the tip back on my BK-2... Not only would it be very handy, but from a less practical perspective I love the lines on the tip of the BK-2.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but to my taste, it's a gorgeous blade, and the tip has a lot to do with it. It's always reminded me of the nose on a silky shark (see image below).
. On the other hand, I don't want to take advantage of Mr. Becker's/Kabar's commitment to their product. I knew what I was doing. It sad to see my blade like this, yes, but I made a choice to risk this outcome... ..and ultimately I'm glad I did; the knife got me home safe - This is a success story!

So subforum, help me out, what do you think I should do?
A) Take Ethan up on his generous offer, and tell everyone I can to buy a Becker, because Ethan and Kabar do it right.
or
B) Find someone with a grinder to help me reshape the tip, making a slightly shorter, but one of a kind blade, ..and tell everyone I can to buy a Becker because making them your own is half the fun.





Hey Grinter.......

If you feel I should, I will replace the knife....... Yeah I guess it is abusive but, you weren't just screwing around either..... I have been four wheeling in the weeds with the wrong tools with me too ........Soooo.....It is your call.......

Thanks for a great post......

Ethan
 
First of all, thanks Ethan, that's above and beyond good customer service!

But I'm in a bit of a bind here:
. I'd love to have the tip back on my BK-2... Not only would it be very handy, but from a less practical perspective I love the lines on the tip of the BK-2.
I don't know what's wrong with me, but to my taste, it's a gorgeous blade, and the tip has a lot to do with it. It's always reminded me of the nose on a silky shark (see image below).
. On the other hand, I don't want to take advantage of Mr. Becker's/Kabar's commitment to their product. I knew what I was doing. It sad to see my blade like this, yes, but I made a choice to risk this outcome... ..and ultimately I'm glad I did; the knife got me home safe - This is a success story!

So subforum, help me out, what do you think I should do?
A) Take Ethan up on his generous offer, and tell everyone I can to buy a Becker, because Ethan and Kabar do it right.
or
B) Find someone with a grinder to help me reshape the tip, making a slightly shorter, but one of a kind blade, ..and tell everyone I can to buy a Becker because making them your own is half the fun.


it'll buff right out.

fix it.

if you don't like it, trade with Ethan :D
 
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