BK10 and ESEE 6?

dresnor said:
Search for Doug Ritter RSK Mk2 Perseverance.

It is a hell of a knife.

Jeremy
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rkmoore said:
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I have owned the ESEE 6 and the BK10 and the BK12. I still have the 10 & the 12 but much prefer the 12. Of all the large knives I've ever owned, the 12 is my favorite. If I could only have one knife for outdoor survival, this would be it.
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Don't own an ESEE 6, handled it once, briefly. Have a 10 and a 12 - and the 12 is my hands down favorite all-around blade. big without being huge, comfy and, most importantly, pretty (IMO ;)). Worth the extra $$ as well, the finish by Rowen is top notch. I had one set of factory Micarta for all of my Beckers (1,2,4,5,7,9,10) and I chose the 12 put them on. Thank you to Geektechnica for introducing me to the 12. I still think the 10 would get the job done - and for it's price you get waaayy more for your hard earned $$. I would buy another 12 in a heartbeat, tho. Not to knock KaBar (their price/performance ratio is outstanding) but Ethan, Doug and Rowen really knocked it out of the park, IMO.

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What it looks like now:

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Creaky Bones said:
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The real difference is here.

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As you have the 9 you know about the handle and how you hold it
The 10 has the same handle

I have medium size hands and the handle gives me a power grip for cutting with a large sized blade
I can use a smaller handle like the 16's handle when I am not holding such a large blade

I do not have or not handled an ESEE 6, but I constantly hear on this board the handles are smaller than larger

Personally I consider a knife to successful by the way I can hold it
And the Becker handles of all the large knives work very well indeed
 
CM_Rick said:
One thing I see failed to be mentioned is a comparison of blade heights. I have an ESSE 6, and regular access to a BK10 (though it's not mine). The E6 has a slightly lower blade height than the B10. With a FFG on the E6, the lower blade height will make the knife more nimble, and lighter. But, on the flip side of that coin, it's less robust, and the B10 would probably take more abuse. I'm always afraid of breaking the tip off of my ESEEs. Though, I've not done that yet.

You could always do a heavy mod to a BK2, and make it what you want.
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For a given stock (spine) thickness and grind, the lower height blade will be thicker throughout most of its height due to a more obtuse primary grind. If the FFG6 were as tall as the BK10 it would be a more slender blade, particularly near the edge.
 


Comparison of the three knives...As mentioned the Doug Ritter is currently out of stock but I read somewhere that they'll have more this Spring?
The Ritter knife screams quality & handles great!:thumbup:
 
I took some pics illustrating grind profiles, and blade heights. Here's the grind profiles. I laid a piece of aluminum foil over cardboard for this. It worked quite well.

You can see the B10 definitely has a more obtuse grind angle, and how much more robust it is.

Here are some shots of the blade heights. The B10 had a near perfect 4cm height throughout the blade.

The E6 was slightly lower by 2mm, but the blade changed at the belly.

Here it gets a full mm higher.

Here's a shot of the spines.

You can also see how much more robust the B 10's tip is in that pic. These are both great knives that are backed by great manufacturers. The choice, to me, comes down to ergos.
 
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CM_Rick said:
I took some pics illustrating grind profiles, and blade heights. Here's the grind profiles. I laid a piece of aluminum foil over cardboard for this. It worked quite well.

You can see the B10 definitely has a more obtuse grind angle, and how much more robust it is.

Here are some shots of the blade heights. The B10 had a near perfect 4cm height throughout the blade.

The E6 was slightly lower by 2mm, but the blade changed at the belly.

Here it gets a full mm higher.

Here's a shot of the spines.

You can also see how much more robust the B 10's tip is in that pic. These are both great knives that are backed by great manufacturers. The choice, to me, comes down to ergos.
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Thank you! This is well laid out and very informative! Kudos to you!
 
Excellent comparison CM, I especially enjoyed how you displayed the different cuts with the foil. That Essee does look pretty nice. Definately compatible to a bk16 I think.
 
I own both and love both. If price is an issue the BK10 is a better deal and is quite usable with the factory handles. I just wrap them in hockey tape. If you are looking at micarta or G10 scales and a sheath upgrade, the price difference disappears, though many folks with ESEEs also upgrade to more ergonomic scales. Depends on budget and preference.

-Levernutt
 
levernutt said:
I own both and love both. If price is an issue the BK10 is a better deal and is quite usable with the factory handles. I just wrap them in hockey tape. If you are looking at micarta or G10 scales and a sheath upgrade, the price difference disappears, though many folks with ESEEs also upgrade to more ergonomic scales. Depends on budget and preference.

-Levernutt
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You think along my lines as far as comparing them apples to apples. It makes sense to then have both!
 
You know... a better Becker to compare to the ESEE 6 would be the BK7. I don't have a 7.
 
CM_Rick said:
You know... a better Becker to compare to the ESEE 6 would be the BK7. I don't have a 7.
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Based off of cutting edge length it still seems the 10 is closest. The 6 really isn't a 6 it's 5.75. The choil is deceiving. The 10 has a cutting edge of 5.5. I'm gonna go with it as a decent comparison. To me th choil is an extended part of the handle for fine work and a way to give extra distance away from the cutting surface for batoning. The 6 and 10 seem like survival blades not fighting knives.
 
The BK7's blade geometry is much closer to the ESEE6. Meaning that they will perform much more alike. The BK10 feels totally different from the E6 while in use due to the very different blade geometries. They seem similar in size, but I think the BK7 is a better comparison to the ESEE6. It would also be a better survival/bushcraft blade than it is a combat/fighter. The B7 doesn't have the ergos to be a good fighter.
 
I think CM_Rick nailed it. The 7 compares more closely with the E6 than the BK10 does. While the E6 is my pick of all the ESEE blades, the BK10 is rapidly becoming one of my favorite knives of any flavor.
 
tradewater said:
I think CM_Rick nailed it. The 7 compares more closely with the E6 than the BK10 does. While the E6 is my pick of all the ESEE blades, the BK10 is rapidly becoming one of my favorite knives of any flavor.
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After reviewing the dimensions, it seems the 6 is 1/4 of an inch off In size of the 10 and the 7 is over an inch bigger in cutting edge. I must be missing something as the 6 and 10 share thane grind and the only difference is the shape of the blade?

Please explain!
 
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The E6 is a full flat grind vs the B10 with a saber, and the 10 is noticeably shorter.

These two knives have totally different geometries. The B7 has a very high flat grind at a very similar blade height to the E6 which means the geometries are much more similar. The B7 is longer than the E6, indeed, but that doesn't change geometry. The B7 and the E6 will have very similar feels during use. The B10 is just very different with its shortness, and robust geometry.
 
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