BK2 1, Snake 0

[oXide]

That's too bad you didn't think of grabbing it by the tail and taking it outside before just hacking at it. It probably died in pain and scared out of its mind. I try to avoid doing that to creatures of any kind when I can.

Grabbing any snake by the tail is a REALLY bad idea, especially if you don't know what species it is! And the snake described can climb, so grabbing it by the tail would mean either getting bitten by a venomous snake, or risking letting it crawl up your arm.....

 

[Tilley Knife]

Pigeon is fine eating.

Yes, they are indeed.

The term "Black Snake" is widely used but the actual species varies from region to region. Here in NC, we have two species that are commonly called "Black Snakes". The Black Rat Snake and the Black Racer, both non-venomous. We also have Water Moccasins that are black but they are commonly referred to as moccasins or cotton mouths. Here's a black rat snake that I found last Friday, during a hike. He's about 5' long.



That's all I've got on the subject of black snakes.

 

[redhat6161]

That's too bad you didn't think of grabbing it by the tail and taking it outside before just hacking at it. It probably died in pain and scared out of its mind. I try to avoid doing that to creatures of any kind when I can.

Geez.... May I please see your man card? Need to make sure it's not counterfeit.

 

[oXide]

Yes, they are indeed.

The term "Black Snake" is widely used but the actual species varies from region to region. Here in NC, we have two species that are commonly called "Black Snakes". The Black Rat Snake and the Black Racer, both non-venomous. We also have Water Moccasins that are black but they are commonly referred to as moccasins or cotton mouths. Here's a black rat snake that I found last Friday, during a hike. He's about 5' long.

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That's all I've got on the subject of black snakes.

Check the link I posted back on page one, for your area you are correct, but there are also rattle snakes commonly called "Black Snakes".

 

[Haze240]

I guess I'm just used to any snakes I encounter in BC having big ol rattles on the ends of their tails to tell me to stay away lol. I still wouldn't have resorted to chopping its tail off before killing it...that seems even more dangerous, injuring a cornered animal. And the BK2 isn't exactly a machete in terms of being out of harms way when it comes to hacking at it anyway. If I knew it to be non venomous, I would have grabbed it and taken it outside myself, if I thought it was venomous, I would have contacted animal control or the cops non emergency.

 

[Tilley Knife]

Check the link I posted back on page one, for your area you are correct, but there are also rattle snakes commonly called "Black Snakes".

Yeah that's cool bud, but I actually live here in NC, born and raised, and I've never heard anyone refer to a rattler as a black snake. Folks do not commonly refer to venomous snakes with the same names used for non-venomous snakes. The internet is sometimes incorrect. Crazy, I know. I'm not a herpetologist, but I know a little bit about the snakes in my region. I spend too much time in the woods not to.

 

[oXide]

I guess I'm just used to any snakes I encounter in BC having big ol rattles on the ends of their tails to tell me to stay away lol. I still wouldn't have resorted to chopping its tail off before killing it...that seems even more dangerous, injuring a cornered animal. And the BK2 isn't exactly a machete in terms of being out of harms way when it comes to hacking at it anyway. If I knew it to be non venomous, I would have grabbed it and taken it outside myself, if I thought it was venomous, I would have contacted animal control or the cops non emergency.

This is the proper procedure for snake removal/relocation, except just grabbing it, I would highly advise GENTLY using something like a garden hoe (not the hookers that crash in your back yards flower beds) to reach under them, being sure to have a clear and quick pathway to the outside, and be very careful when transferring them.

 

[Viper715]

I don't mind snakes as long as they don't bother me. Luckily I was looking around when I found this one. I was on a hike and I look up and here this is at eye level.

Seems like water moccasin are getting thicker around here. I was at work and as myself and two of my co-workers came out the back door to the parking area there is a 4 footer siting on the bench where everyone comes outside to smoke. We're about a half mile from the Missouri river near downtown so we usually don't see them this close into town.

 

[Skystorm]

Guess we do things differently, Out here we don't hack and slash at a non-lethal animal just because we can. Get a glove, grab it by the head and take it outside, problem solved. If we need to kill something then we kill it clean. A black snake is not what I would exactly call a ferocious opponent.

 

[MikeyJ]

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Good night, look at the size of the head on that one! He could deliver the hurts on ya for sure!

 

[oXide]

I don't mind snakes as long as they don't bother me. Luckily I was looking around when I found this one. I was on a hike and I look up and here this is at eye level.

Seems like water moccasin are getting thicker around here. I was at work and as myself and two of my colleagues come out the back door to the parking area there is a 4 footer siting on the bench where everyone comes outside to smoke. We're about a half mile from the Missouri river near downtown so we usually don't see them this close into town.

Fixed that for you, sorry I tend to be OCD about miss-spelling words that are close but not at all the same.

Nice little snake, and that doesn't seem to be all that far from the river, and since cotton mouth's are all over the place, I don't think it's all that unlikely... But you live there, not me.

 

[Haze240]

For the record, I would have done as Skystorm suggests and thrown on a pair of gloves, picked it up and took it outside. I would not go get a garden hoe.

 

[daizee]

My cat will eat your face.
Then post about it on the internet.
He plays a mean game of mousball too.

 

[oXide]

For the record, I would have done as Skystorm suggests and thrown on a pair of gloves, picked it up and took it outside. I would not go get a garden hoe.

If it has fangs, or even good sized teeth, a glove, unless it's designed for such or is made of something quite a bit harder than a snakes fangs, will only protect from glancing bites, and while grabbing it behind the head is the best way to carry it, you really don't want to take the chance of getting bitten if you can possibly avoid because snakes carry the diseases of what they eat in the residue left in their mouths.

 

[Haze240]

Ok, I'm just clarifying what I would have done. Personally. I make no recommendations. You're obviously the expert on this stuff.

And for note, non venomous snakes do not have fangs.

 

[Viper715]

Sorry about the misspelling. I suck at that sort of thing and damn smartphone keyboard don't help.

There's lots of cotton mouths around but I've almost never seen them in the town. Only on the riverbank or tributary streams or in wooded areas not where they had to cross so much concrete.

Now black snakes also we call them rat snakes there all over town and love abandoned houses and basements. We get called to people's houses for snakes probably twice a month.

 

[oXide]

Ok, I'm just clarifying what I would have done. Personally. I make no recommendations. You're obviously the expert on this stuff.

And for note, non venomous snakes do not have fangs.

I know, but did you know that some venomous snakes don't have fangs either? Coral snakes are nasty lil' suckers! And whether they have fangs or not, they all have teeth.

 

[Haze240]

Thankyou Oxide, for Googling snakes for us.

 

[oXide]

Thankyou Oxide, for Googling snakes for us.

Not only did I google snakes, I googled BLACK SNAKES! I'll PM you my addy for the set of safe queen FPR tweener's you said you would buy for me if I wen't above and beyond the call of google fu!

Oh, hmm, I guess I look like a bigger idiot now than I did before... I can't even read, I guess it's time for bed when I start seeing my dreams in text from other peoples posts...

 

[Big Mike]

I know we don't hear much about non-venomous snake bites,

...but a bite from any snake is not a laughing matter.


As mentioned, snakes tend to have lots of nasty organisms in their mouths.


Any snake bit should be treated properly.





Big Mike