BK2 Broke

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I agree to an extent, i believe in this situation force caused blade failure at a stress point.. i would think if you held a 500 pound maple tree trunk above the front portion of the knife it could produce similar effects to what occurred. I agree wood absorbs shock when striking steel, the steel head of the axe isnt absorbing as much shock therefore applying more force to the blade which is placed on the stress point where it broke. vibrations from throwing will indeed break steel but the knife was lodged in wood when struck by the axe so vibrations are less a factor than when a blade is thrown in my opinion.
Silverthorn said:
Its not about where the blade is being struck, its about where the FORCE of the impact is putting the most STRESS on the blade. Metal on metal causes a different kind of vibration in the material as well. If it was just about the blunt force and where it was applied, then wood would break a knife as easily as metal can. Thats one of the reasons why throwing a knife, that isnt made to be thrown will eventually break it. The vibrations, torsion, and force applied to an area that the knife wasnt built to withstand, all come together to cause a break.

In this case (I think, and I could be wrong, someone wiser is welcome to correct me) if you were using a baton most of the impact is actually absorbed by the baton, but you were using hardened steel which caused more vibration and direct impact than a baton would have, and didnt absorb or reduce any of that force or vibration. This caused the most vulnerable place, where the force applied the most stress to crack and then fail. Think blackjack, vs steel pipe. You pop someone in the head with a blackjack you bounce their brain in their skull and they get knocked out, but you pop them in the head with a steel pipe, and their head cracks open like an egg. You could use the exact same force, but achieve completely different results.
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I bet I could break one with repeated throwing. Same effect after a while. Talk to Jeff Randall about people throwing his knives. :D
 
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I've never seen where anyone has claimed the BK2 is unbreakable. That would be silly. But given the many thousands out there being used hard and the extremely small number breaking, they ain't exactly lightweights. Pound on a knife with a sledge or the poll of an axe and funny things can happen. I look at how many times he had to hit it and how much stress it withstood before failing as a pretty good testament to the toughness of the blade. Very, very poor judgment by the way, pounding a knife with an axe poll.
 
The Warrior said:
This. I remember when I went to coal mining school, we were in welding class, and a guy struck a piece of steel with a hammer. Big chunk hit him right above the eye. He was very lucky.
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I've got a couple friends that learned about that when they were teenagers. A sliver of steel came off and hit one in the sternum and lodged. It took some force to remove and bled quite a bit when it came out. A good way to lose an eye.
 
Marty Young said:
I've got a couple friends that learned about that when they were teenagers. A sliver of steel came off and hit one in the sternum and lodged. It took some force to remove and bled quite a bit when it came out. A good way to lose an eye.
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I hear ya man. When that happened right above his eye, you can imagine how that looked. It didn't embed, but left a hell of a nasty gash. Blood was gushing down his face. Not a pretty site.
 
you had the energy too cut down a tree but not too cut off a limb to use too baton with? something seems fishy too me here? but either way hardened steel on hardened steel is bad as has already been pointed out.
 
1. Cut down a tree? Sigh... There was absolutely no wood on the ground you could have used?

2. All knives are breakable, especially if you abuse them regularly. Now I have no problem with batonning (I do it myself), but hitting a knives with an axe... Not so much.

3. As others have said, was the axe dull? Or did you just want to break out the bk2 (which I believe no one will fault you for here).

Oh well, at least no one was hurt...
 
I don't have a problem with batoning but in the woods around here there's plenty lying on the ground that right for fire wood. I wouldn't cut down or baton anything over wrist size or a bit bigger anyway. it would be a wast of energy and larger pieces are more likely too cuase harm too the tools you are using!!
 
I'm wondering what Blindrage1810 was expecting in terms of comments here? My guess is that he expects Ethan to come to his rescue.

If you beat on a knife with an axe or hatchet (aka metal baton), you take your chances.
 
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath.

The guy made a mistake. Not eveyyone is a woosdman, or a knife expert. Stuff happens. He pretty much admitted he abused it. He did not ask for a new knife. (at least not yet)? Looking at the coating on the blade he has used the BK-2 a fair bit.

Cut the guy some slack, at least he was outside, not playing a video game somewhere. Not everyone understands this stuff. You have to learn somehow.

I mean after all it is Christmas, show some spirit.
 
You can't beat hardened steel on hardened steel without something breaking, most every tool you buy these days has disclaimers advising you not to do it. Thankfully it didn't shatter and send pieces flying. If you didn't know that before well now you do, might have cost you 65.00 to learn it but better that than steel in the ol eyeballs.

I never understand why people will carry an axe all day in the woods and then not use it.
 
Oh Lost Viking, I do cut the OP some slack. I've done exactly the same thing with hatchets and axes using a sledge. Not a good thing to do and I knew it. I have old axes lying around in my garage that have been moved two or three times from house to house. In the case of the axes, the only thing I cared about was my eyesight and I wore eye protection. I often used steel chisels and a sledge for splitting rocks.

There is a reason you find big diameter cut logs in parks that have been left untouched as firewood when everything else within 200 yds is picked clean.
 
let's call it a "beginner's mistake", though most beginner's don't have such nice knives and axes :>

the BK2 is a lose. warrant expired. buy a new one and treat it nice :>

but next time, use the axe. that's what it's MADE for. chopping and splitting :D

and no more metal on metal, eh? :P

i feel bad for that lichen!
 
LostViking said:
I think everyone needs to take a deep breath.

The guy made a mistake. Not eveyyone is a woosdman, or a knife expert. Stuff happens. He pretty much admitted he abused it. He did not ask for a new knife. (at least not yet)? Looking at the coating on the blade he has used the BK-2 a fair bit.

Cut the guy some slack, at least he was outside, not playing a video game somewhere. Not everyone understands this stuff. You have to learn somehow.

I mean after all it is Christmas, show some spirit.
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I haven't seen anything nasty yet. Don't plan to with this crowd. Right, crowd?

A minor, digital slap upside the head was probably in order anyway. :D Not everyone has had mentors regarding tool usage, and not everyone reads those warning stickers on hammers. However, hitting hard steel with hard steel can be dangerous, and the OP likely will get that message.

Like Bladite suggests, the usage, as described and illustrated in pictures, constitutes abuse, and I don't see how a warranty will still apply.
 
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