BK5 Mod Rendering

The Warrior said:
No swedge, no choil:
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Oh daaaaamn...

Yeah, I can't get behind the BK-5 as a general-use kitchen knife due to lack of blade height and finger/board clearance. I mean yes, there are general purpose slicers made for the kitchen, and for large cuts of meat, but for thin slicing, dicing, etc. it's a bit thick and doesn't allow most of the pro techniques to be used.
 
Blue Sky said:
The swedge does not bother me either way, but removing the large choil got my attention.
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Same here.

One other thing nobody has mentioned. As the blade sweeps up to the point, in the area I’d call the belly. The blade gets narrower. It looks like the belly has already been sharpened away.

I notice this on a lot of used kitchen knives. The way most people sharpen the heel of the blade is hardly in contact with the stone and is usually full width. As you travel towards the tip the blade gets narrow. The belly begins to disappear. The BK5 looks like it was sharpened by my great grandmother for about 20 years.
 
One of the best uses I have found for the 5 is as a light machete. I’m out every weekend pheasant hunting. And more often than not I get tangled up in what I call (wait a minute vines) They have hooked thorns and will stop me dead in my tracks. I started carrying the 5 to hack my way out of or thru a lot of brambles and briars.
 
I like the rendering! I don't understood taking the grind full height and having a full length swedge. I would like to see no swedge or the grind to meet the swedge. keeping the blade thickness. Just my opinions on the 5 and a few of the other Beckers grinds
 
The Warrior said:
I had a BK5, sold it, regretted it, purchased another, and am looking forward to using it. Anywhos, I have watched reviews on the 5, and some of the complaints were the top swedge that eats batons, and makes it less comfortable for push cuts. Ethan has stated that he was always surprised that the 5 didn't sell well. Even though I know the purpose of it, I have often wondered over the years if the 5 would have sold better if it didn't have the swedge. What are your thoughts?

Stock 5:



Swedge removed:


No swedge, no choil:

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no swedge, no choil looks like my BBQ knife I'm working on that i sneaked peeked here a bit ago....
Great minds think alike. haha
 
Tanker 1/66 said:
One of the best uses I have found for the 5 is as a light machete. I’m out every weekend pheasant hunting. And more often than not I get tangled up in what I call (wait a minute vines) They have hooked thorns and will stop me dead in my tracks. I started carrying the 5 to hack my way out of or thru a lot of brambles and briars.
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Never thought of that, will have to give it a try. :thumbsup:
 
lobo9er said:
I like the rendering! I don't understood taking the grind full height and having a full length swedge. I would like to see no swedge or the grind to meet the swedge. keeping the blade thickness. Just my opinions on the 5 and a few of the other Beckers grinds
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Swedge is usually applied AFTER the major bevel grinding, for reasons. Though industrial processes may vary.
I think the 5 does not need a large wide flat like the other blades - because the other blades have them. What that would do is increase the angle between the main bevels, which would make it more wedge-like, and thus harder to push through material of all sorts.

The BK-5 is built on the same thickness stock as the other large beckers (minus BK-2 and maybe BK-21/29?), but the blade is shorter, spine-to-edge for most of its length. That means a higher grind needs to be used in order to keep from turning into a wedge in cross-section.

FFG to the spine maximizes sliceyness (tm). Swedge increases it further by reducing the max thickness of the blade to the thickness where the swedge meets the main bevels, while maintaining quite a bit of stiffness due to high surface area and changes in direction.
 
daizee said:
Swedge is usually applied AFTER the major bevel grinding, for reasons. Though industrial processes may vary.
I think the 5 does not need a large wide flat like the other blades - because the other blades have them. What that would do is increase the angle between the main bevels, which would make it more wedge-like, and thus harder to push through material of all sorts.

The BK-5 is built on the same thickness stock as the other large beckers (minus BK-2 and maybe BK-21/29?), but the blade is shorter, spine-to-edge for most of its length. That means a higher grind needs to be used in order to keep from turning into a wedge in cross-section.

FFG to the spine maximizes sliceyness (tm). Swedge increases it further by reducing the max thickness of the blade to the thickness where the swedge meets the main bevels, while maintaining quite a bit of stiffness due to high surface area and changes in direction.
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Surface area has nothing to do with friction, so I wonder what the swedge actually does??? Other than mall ninja stuff.....

I know it would be better without it.
But I don't work in marketing.
 
Crag the Brewer said:
Surface area has nothing to do with friction, so I wonder what the swedge actually does??? Other than mall ninja stuff.....

I know it would be better without it.
But I don't work in marketing.
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It's not the surface area, it's the cross-sectional geometry. Skinner wedge slices better. Fatter wedge splits logs better.
The swedge effectively makes it skinnier without sacrificing much strength.
 
daizee said:
It's not the surface area, it's the cross-sectional geometry. Skinner wedge slices better. Fatter wedge splits logs better.
The swedge effectively makes it skinnier without sacrificing much strength.
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It also digs into My thumb........I'm not buying it....haha.
The BK5 is my Favorite, but the swedge is tacticool. That's it.

IF........they were Actually concerned about slicing drag, they'd have a non coated blade. :D
 
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