Black bear attacking question. ?

There has been an increase in black bear attacks in the Smoky Mountains -- the most recnt one apparantly unprovoked. Just recently in asheville, a man took a pic of a mother and two cubs climbing over the railing of his 25-foot high deck.

In this case, I'd say rabies except there was no mention of foaming, and the fact that the bear stopped to lick his wound...
 
Leanwolf said:
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What an irresponsible moron!!!!!!! That numbskull should never be allowed out in the woods again!

To wound a predator and then run snivelling and crying and pissing himself without taking the responsibility of standing ground and killing the animal is the height of cowardice and idiocy. :mad:

That imbecile should just stay in the local bar and drink beer and tell lies to "the boys."

L.W.
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From the story, the bear was no longer an immediate deadly threat. Further shooting to "put the bear out of its misery" could no longer be justified as self-defense. We also don't know how bad the wound from the first shot was. Jack's friend was not hunting and was armed only with a 9mm. By going after the bear a second time he could have provoked another attack where he could have been seriously hurt.

-- FLIX
 
FLIX said:
From the story, the bear was no longer an immediate deadly threat. Further shooting to "put the bear out of its misery" could no longer be justified as self-defense. We also don't know how bad the wound from the first shot was. Jack's friend was not hunting and was armed only with a 9mm. By going after the bear a second time he could have provoked another attack where he could have been seriously hurt.

-- FLIX
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I think his exact words were "I thought about shooting him a few more times but I only had one clip and the way I shoot I'd have been lucky to hit him again I'd just piss him off".

I thought that sounded pretty smart, besides calling a magazine a clip.
 
Black bears have been known to exhibit that kind of behaviour although it is fairly rare. It's tough to blame him because each of us who have been out there can see it happening to us, but he made more than one mistake in that encounter. A wounded bear should never be allowed to roam loose.
I remember a few years ago two guides were up on Ellesmere Island when a polar bear stuck its head in their tent. They killed it with a shot in the face point blank with a handgun, a .45 if I remember correctly. (I didn't know you could actually kill a polar bear that way but obviously if you're close enough you can) When they got back to Resolute they were screamed at because that blew the local quota. They had to fly back and carry it out.
Moral? Even the most experienced people can be surprised by a bear and any bear can be unpredictable. But if you shoot it you have a responsibility - after you clean your underpants.
 
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The very worst thing you can do in an emergency is to panic and become hysterical - yet that's exactly what he did !
leaving a wounded bear may put others in danger.
 
JACKASSBAUER24- "captain iron balls. He was scared and obviously not thinking clearly. Some of us hold it together under pressure better than others, but to come on a internet forum and slander someone with ones e-chest poking out just shows your short comings. so do me a favor a stfu."
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Frankly, Jackass, I couldn't care less what you think of me. Any person who wounds an animal and then runs off to let that animal suffer, should not be out in the woods. Obviously, in my opinion, you fit that sorry mold, as you agree and excuse your bud's actions.

I've seen far too many wounded game animals out in the mountains and forests, even a couple of deer with their jaws shot off, other animals wihth hips blown out, holes through their stomachs, etc., for me to make excuses for the insufferable idiots who shot them and didn't follow up and kill them.

I have killed two Black bears, one of which charged. I fired once wounding the bear. When it immediately turned and ran into the brush, I went after it for two reasons. One, I refuse to leave a wounded animal out in the woods to suffer and die, and two, because even though I was frightened of encountering a wounded bear, it was my fault it was wounded and not dead. Even though I was scared, I followed that bear and killed it.

I do not fault anyone who wounds an animal as poor shooting can happen to anyone of us. (Several years ago, I shot poorly and wounded an elk in Wyoming. I then spent six of the hardest hours of my hunting career tracking and following that bull until I finally killed it.)

I do, however, fault everyone who wounds an animal and then does not follow it and kill it, no matter the circumstances.

Your bud did not assume the responsibility of finishing what he started. You excuse it: I do not.

L.W.
 
Leanwolf said:
Frankly, Jackass, I couldn't care less what you think of me. Any person who wounds an animal and then runs off to let that animal suffer, should not be out in the woods. Obviously, in my opinion, you fit that sorry mold, as you agree and excuse your bud's actions.

I've seen far too many wounded game animals out in the mountains and forests, even a couple of deer with their jaws shot off, other animals wihth hips blown out, holes through their stomachs, etc., for me to make excuses for the insufferable idiots who shot them and didn't follow up and kill them.

I have killed two Black bears, one of which charged. I fired once wounding the bear. When it immediately turned and ran into the brush, I went after it for two reasons. One, I refuse to leave a wounded animal out in the woods to suffer and die, and two, because even though I was frightened of encountering a wounded bear, it was my fault it was wounded and not dead. Even though I was scared, I followed that bear and killed it.

I do not fault anyone who wounds an animal as poor shooting can happen to anyone of us. (Several years ago, I shot poorly and wounded an elk in Wyoming. I then spent six of the hardest hours of my hunting career tracking and following that bull until I finally killed it.)

I do, however, fault everyone who wounds an animal and then does not follow it and kill it, no matter the circumstances.

Your bud did not assume the responsibility of finishing what he started. You excuse it: I do not.

L.W.
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I applaud your morality concerning the situation Leanwolf. It is doubtful that anyone on this forum approves of wounding an animal and leaving it to suffer. That being said, it sounds as if the guy was way over his head and clearly not equipped properly or experienced enough to dispatch the animal. No doubt that he should become much more proficient if he takes on the responsibility of carrying a firearm. He should also get a firearm capable of taking down a bear, since it appears to be a danger in his area.

It appears that you are an experienced hunter and have the capability to exactly what you suggest is the proper course of action, but given the guy's skill level he is just lucky to survive the encounter. Pursuing the bear would have likely been a mortal mistake. Give him a break... ;):)
 
Go back and finish off the Bear!! The Dude survived a bear attack!! The last thing you do is go and look for A PISSED OFF BEAR THAT YOU JUST SHOT!!!!!

Tell you friend Good Job, He lived!! and thats all the matters!!!

I lived in Wyoming for 5 years and I had a 44mag on my side every time I took a walk in the Backcountry!!
Just remember to stay out of Yellowstone.
 
Leanwolf said:
Frankly, Jackass, I couldn't care less what you think of me. Any person who wounds an animal and then runs off to let that animal suffer, should not be out in the woods. Obviously, in my opinion, you fit that sorry mold, as you agree and excuse your bud's actions.

I've seen far too many wounded game animals out in the mountains and forests, even a couple of deer with their jaws shot off, other animals wihth hips blown out, holes through their stomachs, etc., for me to make excuses for the insufferable idiots who shot them and didn't follow up and kill them.

I have killed two Black bears, one of which charged. I fired once wounding the bear. When it immediately turned and ran into the brush, I went after it for two reasons. One, I refuse to leave a wounded animal out in the woods to suffer and die, and two, because even though I was frightened of encountering a wounded bear, it was my fault it was wounded and not dead. Even though I was scared, I followed that bear and killed it.

I do not fault anyone who wounds an animal as poor shooting can happen to anyone of us. (Several years ago, I shot poorly and wounded an elk in Wyoming. I then spent six of the hardest hours of my hunting career tracking and following that bull until I finally killed it.)

I do, however, fault everyone who wounds an animal and then does not follow it and kill it, no matter the circumstances.

Your bud did not assume the responsibility of finishing what he started. You excuse it: I do not.

L.W.
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Leanwolf, now you've gone and pissed me off with this crap. People might learn something from this, but not when you shove your Monday-morning quarterbacking down their throats.

Don't do this again. I had respect for you, but it is fading fast with this thread.

Infraction issued.
 
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