Black Mamba Knives country of origin?

They have some damascus knives on eBay for $64.
Then further down the listings there is a knife from Pakistan listed as 'hand made black mamba' with the same pattern and scale design with extended tang and lanyard hole as one on the website for $35. The website ones are $87-139.
Maybe the more expensive knives are domestic; I think for sure the inexpensive models are Pakistan.

Caveat emptor!
 
This is one of the reasons I stay away from damascus bladed knives. I know there are makers that do a very good job but I am very hesitant to purchase due to cost and the origin of the damascus.
 
If you want to spend real money you can rest assured there are custom made fully American Damascus knives.
Just purchase from a reputable vendor.

I really do not think any of the Mamba knives are American. just Different sellers at different prices. which goes to show what they are really worth. They are much less on Ebay then on the Mamba website. He is simply inflating the prices. A knife that looks like that even for a few hundred is simply not made in the USA. I just wondered how he got away with claiming this. It is simple. He is a crook. If someone really wants one buy it on Ebay for 30 bucks then. It is the same knife he sells for over a bill. It says right on his site that he welcomes wholesalers. What a bum. Real custom knife makers do not do business that way.

You should see some serious Damascus. there is no comparison to this rubbish.
 
Definitely Pakistani. Another way to tell if you're on the fence, but not sure, is look at the sheath -

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If the sheaths look thin and cheap, plus they have narrow belt loops with stitching around them, you're 99% of the time looking at a Pakistani knife of the last 20 years or so.
 
Lol, there's no way in the world this stuff is US made custom work. A glance at the site shows broken English, listings that read just like cheap Pakistani/Chinese knife listings always do, and knives that look just like the ultra cheap stuff you see from those countries all the time.

I opened the listing for a folder and the damascus was described as:

Pattern: Wind & Mix twist Fire pattern feather rain drop ladder Damascus Blade,
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Oh and that knife had a round Spyderco opening hole, damascus and bone handles with a mosaic pin inlay in the bone and a damascus blade for $98.

You're crazy if you think any of this is made in the US . . .
 
Problem isn't new, but expanding big recently.
There are a lot of blanks of all sorts and types available around
and full time "business" crooks, semi crooks and all backyard homemade crooks
are making expensive knives !!

Are you sure you got what you paid for :^D
 
Oh, I did not purchase anything :)
I have been collecting knives for over 40 years.
I kind of just wanted to bring attention to this. Since there was no mention of it here. This guy is a real piece of work.
As you say there are 100 others. It is all on the site that starts with "A" Shame on them. You would think they would not allow this shady business.

An American custom knife that looks like this is big money. It also comes from a reputable company such as AZ. Knives.
 
Even chinese counterfeit chinese knives now !
End of the World is close, too close ...
 
In this case yes, but don't always knock the Chinese. The Chinese can now in fact make a fine product. Seriously. I can no longer universally knock the Chinese. For instance Boker Plus. I mean 2020 ones. Check one out before you insult it please. It is nearly a German Boker. Of course it is not a super high end knife but neither is any Boker. It is good quality though. I get your point. A Chinese knockoff knife is obviously bound to be absolute junk. The problem is, to the unsuspecting these can even be dangerous.

I wish there was an import law about this.
I personally am not affected. I have nice knives. I wished to warn others. Well, I first gave him the benefit of the doubt. Did not happen.
 
Get this. During my current research on the subject. I found the same exact knife being sold by Perkin and DKC for vastly different prices!

I feel that customs should just seize anything from Pakistan. See, they are known to harbor Terrorists. That hurts the United States. I feel that regardless of quality goods or not, we should not have dealings with them.
I don't want this thread to degrade into a political discussion. However I know this forum. I would bet that most of you would agree? Pakistan is bad news on many levels.

As far as the knives however this is Americans ripping off other Americans mostly. They import the knives for next to nothing and jack up the prices. Pakistan in this case is very poor. They have kids running around gutting old cars. One day the Damascus might have a shock absorber. The other a steel tire rim. This is "canned" Damascus in case someone was not aware.

I can rattle off 100 quality high end American knife makers. I will save you the bother. My point is this is none of these. The price reflects it. Even once they bolster the pricing it is not even close to a quality custom knife. I personally would be outright embarrassed to have the likes of "Black Mamba" stamped on my blade. I am not a snob either. I am pretty humble in fact. This includes not portraying dishonesty. These knives are more or less "fakes". They may not be a direct ripoff of someones work but they are just "poser". I hate this. What really gets me is that the largest E-commerce site in the world is the main purveyor of this rubbish. Why? They actually sell very few quality blades and not a single custom.

I am very content with my collection and will most certainly add to it but it shall be none of these. I might wait over a year and a lot of money but I am then very proud of what I have. Not this junk delivered the same week. Perhaps some people just have no clue. That is entirely a possibility.

I just please ask one thing guy's. I beg of you, do not degrade this thread due to the things I just said. Please keep it civil. I am well aware of what can transpire here. Please just don't do that to my first post. If I am incorrect you are welcome to correct me.

Thank you
 
I do not mean to beat a dead horse. Just FYI. The "Company" address is his residence. I asked him for a tour of his shop in Illinois. He informed me The "shop" is not located at his residence. It is "in fact" a top secret building protected by the C.I.A. lol. I found out from another disgruntled customer that the knives ship from New Jersey! End of story. Most certainly Pakistan.
The reason I have made a big deal is not the knives themselves. It is about Dishonest Human Beings. Many people purchasing these do not know better. He banks on this.
Knives are one thing. Disclose Country of origin, fine. Lying and dishonest practices do not sit well with me.
This goes for anything in life. I do not care for being lied to. Even though I never purchased one. I talked to the guy and he lied through his teeth.
I just felt you guy's should know the ultimate outcome of this. I promise that I am done with this subject.
 
Well, I kind of owe this guy an apology. However he certainly embellishes things. It has been confirmed the more expensive "elite" ones are indeed made in America. However not by him. Also, certainly not in a secret building protected by a Government agency. They are "jobbed" by another knife manufacturer. Whom I believe is Bear and Son. Telling the truth goes a long way.
 
22-rimfire said:
This is one of the reasons I stay away from damascus bladed knives. I know there are makers that do a very good job but I am very hesitant to purchase due to cost and the origin of the damascus.
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So many garbage Pakistan damascus knives claiming to be made in the USA nowadays . :eek:
 
This is very true skyhorse. However I cannot completely disparage the owner of Black Mamba. He is a bit "out there". However I have confirmed some of his knives are indeed manufactured entirely in the USA. Others, of course are not. So you do stand correct. It is certainly not limited to him however. I have yet to see a good knife from Pakistan.
 
SS234 said:
Well this is very interesting. I just heard from him. He provided his phone number and business address. He states that they are hand made from start to finish in Illinois northern Suburbs. He further said If I am nearby or plan to travel there any time I am welcome to stop by during business hours and observe the knives being made!

I just happen to live in Chicago! So this is going to be quite interesting. I really do not think he would put himself on the line like that if it were not true. Apparently these are in fact not made in Pakistan after all! To be sure I am going to take him up on his offer on Monday. Although I just do not think he would be that stupid.

So, once I confirm that this is true. If they are of very good quality. Then these are an absolute incredible bargain. The jury is out as of now. I will report back on Monday. In fact Perhaps maybe he has something I can pick out on the spot. Assuming that it is true of course.
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There are a few of Chicagoans here on the forums. I'm northwest suburbs, I wonder where this maker is.

Never mind, he's like 20 minutes from me. Interesting.

I wonder if he is just buying parts and assembling in his shop. Could be Pakistani Damascus blanks that he finishes...
 
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