Blackhawk Crucible or RAT RC-3

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So i now know that the Crucible's sheath is ambidextrous thanks to Gear :).
But i now need some help deciding on which of these fixed blades to go for. Any ideas, thoughts, opinions and advice would be greatly welcome.

thanks
 
I think the Crucible is very nasty looking and could draw unwanted and unfavorable attention.

The RAT, though much more "traditional", will generally do the same work as the Crucible.
It's a really well made, well designed, tough knife with several carry options.
 
I'm not familiar with the Blackhawk, but it appears to be a solid knife. Personally, I would go with the RAT.....for the money, you WILL NOT beat the RC-3. I own a couple RATS and the quality is unbeatable for the money.
Good Luck,
JT
 
One of my major considerations is the sheath and the ability to carry comfortably and concealed. I like the idea of the carry options on the Crucible. The look of the blade isnt that much of a concern, it will stay sheathed most of the time and where i'm from we dont have laws regulating knife blades size, application etc. It's like the wild west actually :)
 
I have almost all the RAT/RC line up. Only missing the RC6. Until the HEST came along the RC3 was my favorite small blade. It is a great blade... a true cutter and slicer. It can't pry you out of your car but it sure does cut well.
T
 
thanks for the help guys. I was first considering the rc 3 and then saw the Crucible which caught my eye. But by listening to you and the more i think about it the better bet rc3 sounds.

How does it carry if you attach it to a belt, is it quite small?
 
RC-3 has one of the most versatile sheath systems available. In fact given the RC-3 is an improved version over the original RAT-3 made by Ontario, it is safe to say that most of the investment in research and design for the RC-3 went into upgrading and developing the highly versatile sheath system.

I suggest getting the molle backing option with your knife for the extra $20 to increase versatility further. You don't have to use the molle backing in other configurations, but having it lets you alter and carry the knife in different types of configurations.

The sheath is ambidextrous and can be configured for either horizontal or vertical carry. You do this by threading paracord to form paracord loops. Some people are skeptical of the paracord loops, but they work extremely well, hold the knife tighter to your body than a tek-lok and if you just want to slip the sheath in your pocket the loops don't contribute to extra bulk like a devoted belt loop will. If you like tek-locks, you can purchase an aftermarket tek-lock and it will fit your RC-3.

The RC-3 also comes with a boot clip plate that you can screw onto the sheath. You can use the clip for pocket carry like you would a folded knife or boot carry. Finally, it comes with molle locks for fixing the blade to molle webbing found on military bags like maxpedition or military vests. The molle locks are included with the regular sheath package.

The molle backing option with the RC-3 allows you to carry the knife in a drop down orientation so that the handle sits below the belt. This is particularly good when carrying the knife on belt and using a backpack with a thick waist strap. The molle backing also offers additional lashing options and some neat retention features like a piece of shock chord/band that can flip over the top of the pommel for extra security making it "jump proof".

Anyhow, the RC-3 is a great blade.
 
I've a couple of Crucible folders and these were EXTEMELY well made. I have heard good things about the fixed blade too. I don't the f.b. Cruc. is any more intimidating than any other f.b. however. It is smaller too with a really really nice ergonomic handle design. keepem sharp
 
If I were you I would go with the Crucible solely on what you said about the many different carry positions. I love the idea of having 70 different carry positions all with the knife (RAT doesnt offer that WITH their knife in the box.

In my opinion you can't beat the TCCS system it's quite comfortable. And need I say anything more than VG10. Unless you are buying the FX2 then it's AUS8A which I still don't mind it holds a fine enough edge for my tastes.

It also comes down to what the knife will be used for is it a defensive/tactical knife or is it hard use. Because if it is hard use RAT would be the best choice just from their warranty alone.

I believe correct me if I'm wrong that even if you break your RAT and it's your fault they will replace it that alone is worth getting it. The choice is solely up to you but for defensive/light utility work the blackhawk will serve you admirably but for a major all use knife get a RAT!:thumbup:
 
And need I say anything more than VG10.

Yeah you should probably say more. VG10 great on edge retention sucky on chipping. Great for folders, not so great applied to fixed blades used in prying and other hard use, need for toughness applications.
 
Yeah you should probably say more. VG10 great on edge retention sucky on chipping. Great for folders, not so great applied to fixed blades used in prying and other hard use, need for toughness applications.


Thank you very much for the information I did not know that I think that I will stick with 1095 then for my fixed blades.:thumbup:
 
I really like the D2 Rat-3 I've been using all summer. Super sharp.

You won't find a better fixed blade in that size range.
 
RAT Cutlery (Not ontario's rats) have the better warranty than the blackhawk. Better overall knife too
 
Slightly off topic, but at the same time, relevant.

Will the RAT Izula (and by association, other fixed RATs) stay in their sheaths while trailrunning? I've wanted a fixed blade for running that I had immediate access to. It can be clipped to a running pack I wear. However, the retention needs to be strong enough to withstand constant draws out of the sheath and hundreds of miles of bouncing upside down.
 
I've a couple of Crucible folders and these were EXTEMELY well made. I have heard good things about the fixed blade too. I don't the f.b. Cruc. is any more intimidating than any other f.b. however. It is smaller too with a really really nice ergonomic handle design. keepem sharp

I've been a silent champion of the Crucible series since some years back. :thumbup: A production liner-lock I could absolutely depend upon with superb ergo's indeed! The FX is even more comfier in the hand; feels less "blocky" than the folder (a trade-off I supposed of the folder design).

That being said, I agree that for anything tougher, I'd go with the RAT team's designs. They know what works and survives out there!
 
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