Bluntruth Tenacious bashing.

I watched the first 2 min of the review. When he started talking about the "uneven grind with hills and valleys" i moved on. Either he's got a fake or he dosent know crap about knives.

Then i fastforwarded and came upon the part where he says that "Spyderco are stepping down their reputation".
IMO Spyderco made a knife for the masses, a user that allows people regardless of income to own a Spyderco and STILL get some Spyderco quality. Apparently he cant see that.

Only thing i dislike about the Tenacious is the steel. Dosent hold the edge for long unless all you do is cut fruit. But then again at the pricepoint i cant allow myself to complain.

You get what you pay for, and IMO in the case of the Tenacious, you get some extras too.
 
AKnife said:
Nutnfancy is just a little full of himself and now that he's getting big he's getting really full of himself. I admire what he does, but he's letting the fame get to his head. He acts like every business decision that knife companies make is inspired by his "philosophy." It's hard to stomach some of his BS because he has so many followers that treat it as fact.

Another reason I like Blunt's vids, he calls somethinspecial (Nutnfancy) out on his BS.
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I agree. At one time, he didn't just blab on and on and on, but now he just can't seem to get enough of his own voice. In order to slog through his reviews now, I put the video on, and open another tab to keep surfing and I reopen the tab when I think he getting interesting.

And I don't know what his credentials are to judge a tactical blade. Has he been in combat? Is he a professionally trained knife fighter? l have several friends that have been in combat (including my very well scarred business partner in a venture), and NEVER, EVER, not ONCE did they use their knives for tactical combat. They opened ammo cans, dug holes, smashed windows, cut rope and bindings, opened food cans, pried, chopped, and hammered on things as needed. The laugh their asses off at somebody thinking that he will be in a movie-style knife fight while in combat.

Nut'n says:

"You troops that are watching this and will be watching this in years to come, this will be a good choice for you for a deployment knife."

Then, as the teacher he is, he goes on to explain to the troops what <deployment> means:

"Meaning a knife you can put on your web belt and deploy with, it would be very useful in all kinds of tasks, and COMBAT, i.e., defensive tasks as well like I have spoken to already."

How does he know that?

For the nutnfancy fans it starts around 9:00 in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6QmT4CnMwo&feature=PlayList&p=83B876B578DFBC78&index=2

or

http://tinyurl.com/ocexvu

He is now a technical adviser to the military?

Sheessh. Talk about believing your own stuff.

And Jeezus... am I tired of hearing a 30 year old man say "dude" every 2 minutes when he is around other men.

It's sad. When he was getting started I enjoyed his reviews.

Robert
 
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Something that i have found to be the case is a deeply, maybe even wildly fluctuating quality/fit and finish in lower end or lower cost knives. The Buck Vantage Pro, for instance. I have heard and seen people go off on it for the massively late lock up(like all the way over and touching the other liner), very off center when closed. I think i even read someone saying that the blade was crooked when open. The one i had was off center and the lockup wandered back and forth until i tightened it up. Then it was almost dead center and locked up just before half way. Of course, this came at the cost of no longer being a flipper.

Similar stories for the CRKT Summa. Hugely off center blade when closed. Significant play in the blade, the blade kind of moving up and down in the handle when closed, and the late lock up thing again. I got really lucky and my Summa has none of that. Consistently early lock up, dead on centered blade, zero play in any direction.

Based on my experience with the Summa, i would say it is seriously underpriced. I love that knife. One of my favorites. It's not particularly accurate though. Cause i can only point to mine for the level of perfection i see in it. Others have very different experiences with it. I guess that's where the extra money might go in a more expensive knife. A far greater consistency of quality. It doesn't appear to me that the Tenacious offers that. If you get one of the good ones, then it rocks. If not, then it might seem kinda shitty. Just some thoughts. I don't own a Tenacious so i can't share my own exp. with one, but i am very interested in this knife and the Vex from the standpoint of their "rivalry" I once requested Blunt to carry a Vex for awhile and do a vid on it. He said i wasn't the first to ask and he would eventually do so.
 
I think bluntruth makes decent reviews compared to most others out there on youtube. To us, he may be wrong about his review on the Tenacious, but that's his opinion I guess. One thing I do know, I would love for him to get any other $30 folder out there and compare it to the tenacious. We'll see which one comes out ahead. IMO Spyderco has made the best folder that they can sell for $30. That allows people who can't afford $100 knives to get a taste of the great Spyderco name!
 
jesse2205 said:
I think bluntruth makes decent reviews compared to most others out there on youtube. To us, he may be wrong about his review on the Tenacious, but that's his opinion I guess. One thing I do know, I would love for him to get any other $30 folder out there and compare it to the tenacious. We'll see which one comes out ahead. IMO Spyderco has made the best folder that they can sell for $30. That allows people who can't afford $100 knives to get a taste of the great Spyderco name!
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Not trying to stir the pot, but there are several other knives around this price that are pretty decent. The BM Monochrome is a very good knife for the money with a good steel (N690 iirc that's what Extrema Ratio folders use and on par with VG10). Kershaw has a few (US made I might add) as well. I know this is the Spyderco forum and all, but don't dismiss other options so quickly.

Also to add about the Tenacious vid; We don't know if he got a lemon, as stated above, the quality of these lower end knives can be hit or miss. There is no way to tell what his knife is like just by inspecting your own Tenacious. Regardless, I respect other opinions besides my own. That's how we learn, and seeing a knife from more than one point of view is very nice. I passed up on the Tenacious due to reports of it's bad detent and not-so-great steel, glad I went for the Endura 4 when I was debating which one to get.
 
AKnife said:
glad I went for the Endura 4 when I was debating which one to get.
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You cant compare the Endura and Tenacious, theyre totally different and the Endura wins any day. It outperforms the Tenacious in every aspect but price.

But youre totally right, he might have gotten a bad Tenacious and based his review on that particular one.
 
I agree with the review, my tenacious came to me with a huge bur on it and after some light use (food prep, some wood, and a few plastic bottles) there was a massive amount of vertical play, it's now really just a beater knife for me and i don't often need a beater knife so it stays in the drawer most of the time
 
razorback1595 said:
I agree with the review, my tenacious came to me with a huge bur on it and after some light use (food prep, some wood, and a few plastic bottles) there was a massive amount of vertical play, it's now really just a beater knife for me and i don't often need a beater knife so it stays in the drawer most of the time
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Could you go into a little more detail about the light use on wood? I have a Tenacious I've broken down scores of boxes with, shaved off large areas of 2x4's, and have trimmed molding with.

The reason I'm curious about your experince is my Tenacious never had any blade play, especially compared to a Delica's vertical play, and still locks as well as it did out of the box.
 
I really like Steven's videos, he tells you what he thinks about the knife he received and actually tests and uses the knife rather than some people who basically read the knife specs out on the videos without addressing the cost, the ergonomics, comfort under hard use and the effectiveness of the grind.
 
kmm said:
You cant compare the Endura and Tenacious, theyre totally different and the Endura wins any day. It outperforms the Tenacious in every aspect but price.

But youre totally right, he might have gotten a bad Tenacious and based his review on that particular one.
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The tenacious wins with the grind, the full flat grind will outperform a low saber grind any day in slicing.
 
I like my Tenacious just fine.It is a good value in my opinion for the price.It is no 150 dollar knife,but does offer a lot of bang for the buck.Mine has a very slick action, and while the blade steel isn't the greatest super unobtainium steel out there it holds a edge reasonably well.What are people expecting for a $35 dollar knife? I feel it is a better value compared to a lot of other knives in this price range.I have used mine quite extensively cutting off valve stems on wheels at work. The blade has been bumped up against many a wheel and holds a edge decent.It is also easy to touch up.

I feel a lot of people here are knife snobs ( as am I) and like the more expensive Spyderco models.I own several, but please don't discount the lesser expensive stuff as junk.If some of you guys ever get a chance to look at some of the Stainless Byrd models, the fit and finish on the ones I have are better than a lot of the Spyderco Seki models I have. The lock up on the Pelican and Flight I have are precise and like a bank vault.The polishing on the handles and blade are also spot on.
 
I feel sorry for the bloke. Some of his opinions I agree with, some I disagree with, most I have no opinion on.
He definitely calls what he sees as a spade, a spade.
But even when he's super excited about a blade he still talks as if his dog just died.
I hope it didn't. Cheer up Blunt!
 
The Tenacious is not the "be all end all - first in class" knife that people tout it as. That is all Blunt was trying to say. He made a lot of valid points and he also went way over the line with other criticisms.

It gets really annoying when a "what folder under 40" thread turns into a, "I sacrifice mice to my Tenacious Alter" thread.

When people go as far as to say that the knife is worth 50, even 60+ dollars it is total nonesense -and that has happened before.
 
BadBoyBrad!! said:
I feel sorry for the bloke. Some of his opinions I agree with, some I disagree with, most I have no opinion on.
He definitely calls what he sees as a spade, a spade.
But even when he's super excited about a blade he still talks as if his dog just died.
I hope it didn't. Cheer up Blunt!
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You made me laugh. Yeah, i love his voice. It always seems vaguely like he got irrevocably roped into doing this somehow. I dig it. It's part of his charm. Part of the whole BluntTruth4U package. It wouldn't be a Blunt video if he sounded any other way.
 
jpsmith said:
You made me laugh. Yeah, i love his voice. It always seems vaguely like he got irrevocably roped into doing this somehow. I dig it. It's part of his charm. Part of the whole BluntTruth4U package. It wouldn't be a Blunt video if he sounded any other way.
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For sure, would love to see him do a review of a Chevrolet :p
 
The Government said:
The Tenacious is not the "be all end all - first in class" knife that people tout it as. That is all Blunt was trying to say. He made a lot of valid points and he also went way over the line with other criticisms.

It gets really annoying when a "what folder under 40" thread turns into a, "I sacrifice mice to my Tenacious Alter" thread.

When people go as far as to say that the knife is worth 50, even 60+ dollars it is total nonesense -and that has happened before.
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Exactly, he's just stating it's worth the price you pay and nothing more. One thing I've noticed is that people like to give cheaper knives a lot of exaggerated hype. This probably is related to the fact that these knives are more accessible to the general public (cheaper price so more people have them) so when someone picks one up they think it's the greatest knife ever and it's cheaper than the other knife that looks similar so it must be just as good.

Give these same people a para, military or any other higher quality knife and I bet they would have a list of the cheaper knife's flaws. Most people want a popular knife so they can brag about how they have it and fit in with everyone else who has said knife. When someone disses their popular knife they take it personal and flame the person that opposes the herd.

BadBoyBrad!! said:
I feel sorry for the bloke. Some of his opinions I agree with, some I disagree with, most I have no opinion on.
He definitely calls what he sees as a spade, a spade.
But even when he's super excited about a blade he still talks as if his dog just died.
I hope it didn't. Cheer up Blunt!
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Eh, not everyone is as optimistic as everyone's favorite 40 year old surfer dude that tells you his life story every week. :rolleyes: I rather prefer Blunt's (Steven's) vids over a lot of the one's out there. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a dog, but he does have a snake named Oscar. :thumbup:
 
He has the most hilarious video on the CS ti lite

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I like this guy. :D

Any areas of the review that are lacking are certainly made up for with sheer entertainment value.

Blunt keep doing what you do. :thumbup:
 
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