BM730 question

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Does anyone know if the color on the G-10 scales if molded throughout the entire scale, or is it just surface coloring? I really like, and want, this knife, but I worried that the color will rub off after time. I've been debating on which new knife to get after my Spyderco Delica went MIA ( Missing In Airport ). I've narrowed it down between the BM730 and the BM750. Does anyone have any recommendations for someone new to this whole thing? Thanks.

--Vader2k
 
From what I can tell, the colored G10 is woven throughout the scales along with black G10. The 730 is wonderful knife. It is currently my favorite large folder at this time. You can't miss with this one.
 
Vader2K,
The G10 is layered: 1 layer black, 1 layer maroon and so on, so that when they machine it with the contoured handles the color is brought out. I think it is very nicely done. In my opinion the best Axis-lock model yet.
Very comfortable in the hand and buttery smooth operation with solid lockup.
The 750 is also a nice knife. Kind of a different beast though. Titanium handles with a Mono-lock. Also very solid lockup on mine but no where near as smooth as the 730.
Good luck
Walter
 
I've handled both knives, and I've owned a 750. My preference is for the 730. I think I'll get one as soon as it becomes available witha plain edge.

David Rock

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Thanks for your input, and for setting my mind at easy. After I read your posts I went to my local knife store, who is an authorized Benchmade dealer, an bought a BM730S. I am very pleased with the purchase. I have to say that this is the smoothest opening, and looking, knife I've ever owned or used. Thanks again.
--Vader2K

P.S. One more question. I noticed in the BM catalog, and website, that the blade is supposed to be made out of 154CM. My blade clearly states ATS-34, and to the best of my knowledge, is a production version of the knife. What gives?

 
Vader,
Could yours be a p.p. model? I was under the impression that the production models weren't out yet...though I could be wrong.

~Mitch
 
How can I tell? I asked my dealer, and he said it was a production model and that he never received any of the p.p. models. The Benchmade box that it came in has a barcode sticker on one end that says, "730S Elishewitz" and has a UPC code of 1095311393. The knife itself have the following markings on the blade: One the clip side, "ATS-34" at the top of the blade, under that the "ELISHEWITZ" name and symbol, and under that the "U.S. Patent No. 5737841". On the opposite side of the blade it just has the "BENCHMADE" name and symbol. There are no other markings on the knife, except for the clip which says "BENCHMADE U.S.A."

--Vader2K
 
I ahve been considering both the BM 730 and the 750. I already own a BM 720 and I reaaly like the axis lock. But I think that I am going to get a 730.

Regarding the material of the blade. The pre-production could have been 154CM and they decided to use ATS-34. It really doesn't make that much difference. From what I understand, both materials make excellent knives.
 
One other thing. I don't think BM uses 154CM for any other custom knife. I think the only other material they use is M2. But they may use other material for their butterflies. There catalog only lists ATS-34 and M2.
 
I have a P.P 730s and it's ATS-34, #969.....strange. I thought only the P.P uses ATS-34, BM must have changed their mind.
Anyway, it's a beautiful knife!
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Could someone tell me what color the scales are on this knife? From the website, it looks like they are purple. I haven't been able to find a better photo on the Internet yet. I love my little BM705 but it looks like I might have to get one of these to go along with it.
 
I believe the pre-production models (with a number out of 1000) have blades made out of ATS-34. I have heard that Benchmade is going to phase it out and replace it with 154CM. Whether this is true or not, I can't confirm. I did however order an actual production model 730SBT from Grand Prairie knives yesterday and when it arrives, I'll give you guys details of it.
 
I'm getting tired of this whole knife learning curve thing...not really, just kidding.....but seriously....I was plenty happy with my 750 for a long time...then just had to try the 710...an innocent foray....now that's been my steady carry....then had to try the 730 cause I loved the axis and wanted something 'different' than black. Sheesh before the 750's it was Stryker/AFCK/CQC7/Wegner/Blackhawk?/Police/......geeseh....can't even remember them all, now I'm looking at the Synergy and decorated benza's ......will it ever end.....just glad I've still gotta work for a living cause otherwise I'd be dealing on the bf 24/7. Course that wouldn't be all bad either now that I think about it.
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Bob - The scales are somewhat maroon than red in real life. Some folks don't like it because of it's black/red combination but the colours in web sites are not accurate. Try one, it's quite nice.

ERIC.
 
Well, I spent my first night with my new knife (my wife's jealous). I never knew I could open and close a knife so many times in a single night. I just couldn't put it down. The action was soooooo smooth, I didn't know a knife could operate this well. I loved my Spyderco Delica, but it's not even in the same ball park. As a matter of fact, all the other knives I looked at, Kershaw, Spyderco, Emerson, and MOD just to name a few, pale in comparison as far as smoothness goes. The colors on the scales, on mine at least, is black and 2 different shades of purple. Everything seems to be put together very well. Everything lines up, the edges of the scales are flush with the liner, and the lock mechanism works beautifully. And, man this thing is sharp. I mean really sharp. I don't know if this is the factory edge, or if my dealer sharpened it (this was the last one he had and was in the display case, so he may have honed it a little), but either way you look at it, this thing is SHARP!!!! I'm still trying to learn the phraseology used in the knife world, but I would have to say this thing is Scary Sharp (at least to me).
I did a couple little tests just to see how sharp the blade was. I cut the end off of a cigar, and it was a smooth cut.....no tearing. My reasoning for doing this little test is because when I normally cut the end off a cigar with a knife, it usually pull out some of the tobacco and/or tears the outside wrapper. This blade cut it clean, like it was done with a razorblade.
The other test I did was to cut the end-grain of a piece of soft wood, in this case it was pine. Most woodworker will tell you that this is a good test to see how sharp a wood chisel is. You see, if you cut the end grain of a soft wood with a dull chisel, or blade in this case, the wood fibers actually break instead of being cut which leaves a rough surface. If the chisel/blade is sharp, and I mean SHARP, the end-grain cut will almost look burnished, and have a smooth surface. Well, this blade left a very nice, smooth surface after I made the cut.
I am very impressed with the quality and finish of this piece of mechanical art. In a way I'm kind of glad I lost my Delica, otherwise I wouldn't have started looking for a new replacement.

--Vader2K
 
I have also been considering a 730 or a 750. The only reason I have been tinking about the 750 is because it is a clone of the Sebenza.
(There are soooo many Sebenza devotees) But I have been handling both of these guys for a while. I really like the contoured scales of the 730. One off my main grips about most g-10 scales it that they are flat. Last time I checked, when you are gripping a knife, the inside of your palm is curved.

Therefore my next knife will be a Benchmade 730S. I know it will be a while before the supply lines are filled, but I am patient.

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I love it! Just went to my local friendly knife dealer and he had a plain edge one available along with the other styles. The plain edge said first edition and he was asking $110 for it which I thought seemed pretty fair for a new model.

I would have prefered the color to be a bit more purple like Benchmade's website photo then maroon (please don't flame me on this, I just like purple, what can I say).

Seemed really smooth opening and closing, maybe a bit more so then my 705.

So, will my next knife be a Speedtech or the BM730? Not that they are similar but I can only get away with an very occasional knife purchase before the spousal unit will get too upset.
 
BobT, do you recall what type of steel the blade was made out of? From what I've gathered so far, all of the pre-production models were combo blade configuration of the ATS-34 persuasion. Plain blades would therefore be production models and should, according to the BM catalog and website, be made of 154CM.

--Vader2K
 
vader2k,
There are two BM dealers in my area that have the BM730's. One dealer has two of them, both plain edge 730. The box to both of these knives are clearly marked "pre-production". Both knives are marked ATS-34 on the blade, and on the otherside say Eilshewitz. There are no "pre-production" type numbers like #69 of #1000.

The other dealer has one model 730S (serrated). It's box is clearly marked "pre-production" and as above, has the same markings on the blade, and no "limited run" numbers.

From what I've seen and read, the BM730 will switch from its "pre-production" ATS-34 to 154cm on its production knives.

My "production" 730S is in the mail as we (I) speak. It should be here tommorow, I can't wait! If it's half as smooth as the pre-production models that I handled, it'll be money well spent!

Although I'm somewhat new to the knife thing, I have done some basic research before choosing my first folder, the BM730S. Good choice no?? But I was hoping maybe you or someone else could answer a few of my questions about the new BM730 & Eilshewitz designs??

I'm kinda new to the knife thing so excuse me if my questions are stupid.

What is G10, and what pros/cons does it have over the other common handle materiels (Alum, Titainium, Kydex,...and others)??

From what I've read, 154CM is the American cousin to ATS-34. What are the qualities of 154CM (ie. hardness, sharpening, and holding an edge), and are these qualities as good as ATS-34??

On the Eilshewitz knives I've seen the acronyms "ARES" and "MARS". What do these acronyms mean, and do they apply to only his custom knives, or do they also apply to the BM730S Eilshewitz?? If so, which one applies to the BM730??

Thanks


--Five O
 
The one I saw was 154CM and was labeled first edition or first production (don't remember which).

First glance it seemed awfully large but I thought it was pretty darn comfortable.
 
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