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It's cool to see 'em- I've seen 5 or 6 of 'em here. They made a strong comeback in Southern Illinois in recent years. Now we have cougar, too. So I'm a little puzzled by those who think their numbers are dwindling. ??
As far as letting it go, if he did everything legally, I see no problem with removing a varmint that has been preying on his livestock. I'm not saying he should kill it, and if this was done in a manner contrary to the law, I'd say he definitely shouldn't. But I recognize that for this man, the desire to see a majestic beast in the wild may be outweighed by concerns for his own animals, and would not judge him for doing what he has to.
A coworker happened to be on the phone with a local guy who was out deer hunting (a bad time to call, I agree). They guy witnessed a bobcat attack a deer as they were talking. It bit the deer's neck and took it down; I don't recall now though whether the deer got up and took off again. But if they can take down a deer, I would be concerned for 70 pound calves, too.
My first reaction to this is to say something about your condescending attitude towards something you obviously don't know anything about. But instead maybe this is an opportunity for learning. As another poster has already pointed out, yes, the bigger older animals are indeed much more challenging to take. You can go out here and shoot a whole pickup load of younger deer, whereas the older ones have gotten smarter and learned some incredible tricks. It's not just about luck; real effort is usually needed to learn their habits and actually outsmart them. I have never even gotten a shot at an old buck because I'm mainly out to just harvest some meat for the freezer. But I will not begrudge those who are willing to put in the work to earn a shot at a nice one.
I do not eat the skunks or coyotes I shoot, or the houseflies I swat, and make no apology for it. I would have been happy to only talk about bobcats on this thread; I see no need for comments about moral superiority from those who are in a different situation.
Cheers.
As far as letting it go, if he did everything legally, I see no problem with removing a varmint that has been preying on his livestock. I'm not saying he should kill it, and if this was done in a manner contrary to the law, I'd say he definitely shouldn't. But I recognize that for this man, the desire to see a majestic beast in the wild may be outweighed by concerns for his own animals, and would not judge him for doing what he has to.
A coworker happened to be on the phone with a local guy who was out deer hunting (a bad time to call, I agree). They guy witnessed a bobcat attack a deer as they were talking. It bit the deer's neck and took it down; I don't recall now though whether the deer got up and took off again. But if they can take down a deer, I would be concerned for 70 pound calves, too.
But even with deer, i mean i have no problem with hunting if your eating it. but to brag about killing the biggest deer just seems odd to me. Killing a bigger dear isn't really any harder or requiring more skill is it? Personally if requiring large food consumption is left out, I would rather just take smaller deer just to leave the genepool healthy. I guess i just find it disrespectful for exploitative to plaster pictures of dead animals everywhere. give em some respect, and dont you dare leave uneaten meat on your plate.
My first reaction to this is to say something about your condescending attitude towards something you obviously don't know anything about. But instead maybe this is an opportunity for learning. As another poster has already pointed out, yes, the bigger older animals are indeed much more challenging to take. You can go out here and shoot a whole pickup load of younger deer, whereas the older ones have gotten smarter and learned some incredible tricks. It's not just about luck; real effort is usually needed to learn their habits and actually outsmart them. I have never even gotten a shot at an old buck because I'm mainly out to just harvest some meat for the freezer. But I will not begrudge those who are willing to put in the work to earn a shot at a nice one.
I do not eat the skunks or coyotes I shoot, or the houseflies I swat, and make no apology for it. I would have been happy to only talk about bobcats on this thread; I see no need for comments about moral superiority from those who are in a different situation.
Cheers.