Boker Plus these days o.0

Just saw Boker Plus is adding a Rexford design in M390 and milled titanium with fancy carbon fiber scale, lockbar insert, and ball bearing pocket clip.

For $411.75.

What are everyone's thoughts on CRK prices for Boker knives? I think we've seen a lot of sporting goods store blister-pack knife companies coming out with higher-end lines - CRKT, Gerber. Spyderco has dived into the high-end production with several nice collaborations.

But... I dunno. I just can't see paying Sebenza prices for a Boker.

Boker Plus is the marking Boker uses for knives with a design supplied by Boker and manufactured by a factory not owned by Boker.

Those are pricey materials, and pricey features in a design from a well known design house.
It's outside my price range and I would suggest finding a review someplace before buying it. But the price does not seem automatically bogus. If it's a well done piece, the price would be about correct for that setup.
 
Not to dredge this up, but it was the Boker Plus Aphex that was made be Reate, so they have definitely used them for their higher end knives before.
 
A shame that Boker labels this as a collaboration and custom design with Gedraitis. Nothing but a knock off the original Applegate. Wonder what Rex would say if he were still with us.
 
Last Boke Plus I bought was a Gavin and Grant Hawk Griplok. Great knife, unique design, made in Taiwan, has a clip found on their CRK design, well worth the $50 I paid.
 
I've purchased some very nice Boker knives. All of them German made. I bought one Boker Plus that was cheap Chinese junk and said never again. The Plus line has well earned reputation as cheap junk knives.

In my opinion, if they are looking to upscale into higher end overseas manufacture (which I applaud) they need to ditch the "Plus" branding and come up with something new.
Glad I found your post. I was looking at the Boker Plus Strike auto in either D2 or S30V but I thought they were made in Germany. If they are made in Communist China I want nothing to do with them. These are being sold on many knife sites for between $39 and $69 all over. So is the Plus line from Boker Chinese crap? Because I have seen videos that were impressive where people were trying to get the auto to fail and it wouldn't. But again if they are Communist China made, I want nothing to do with Boker.
 
Glad I found your post. I was looking at the Boker Plus Strike auto in either D2 or S30V but I thought they were made in Germany. If they are made in Communist China I want nothing to do with them. These are being sold on many knife sites for between $39 and $69 all over. So is the Plus line from Boker Chinese crap? Because I have seen videos that were impressive where people were trying to get the auto to fail and it wouldn't. But again if they are Communist China made, I want nothing to do with Boker.
those are shown as made in Taiwan,..not china...different country.
 
A couple/few months ago, I ran across a clearance sale that Knifecenter was having on some of their Boker products. So, I decided to see if they had anything that I'd be interested in adding to my eclectic collection.
Well, they had the Boker Plus model Apparo for a really great price. I think it was only like $75 or $80. They usually go for $150 to $180, so it was a scream of a deal. So, I went ahead and started doing some online research on them, and it seemed interesting enough that I decided to order it. The one thing that I wasn't sure about before I placed that order, was it's country of origin. Most websites listed no origin, one listed it as from Taiwan, and found another listing it as from China.
I didn't actually uncover it's true origin until it arrived in the mail. While I was keeping my fingers crossed for it to have been made in Taiwan, the box had it as being made in China.

What I found most strange was that nowhere on the knife itself did they place the knife's country of origin 🤔

The Boker Plus Apparo lead me to wanting to seek out a US made Buck 'Buckmaster' 184 survival knife as an addition to my collection.
Although I was able to obtain one in the condition I wanted, it sure wasn't anywhere near the low price that I paid for the Apparo, (my having paid $800 for the Buckmaster) 😱

The Buckmaster 184 then lead me into seeking out a Buckmaster 185, and once that model was obtained, my seeking out of this genre of knives was satisfied 👍😊👍

The Boker Plus Apparo is shown here on the top, with the Buckmaster 184 and 185 beneath it...

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A couple/few months ago, I ran across a clearance sale that Knifecenter was having on some of their Boker products. So, I decided to see if they had anything that I'd be interested in adding to my eclectic collection.
Well, they had the Boker Plus model Apparo for a really great price. I think it was only like $75 or $80. They usually go for $150 to $180, so it was a scream of a deal. So, I went ahead and started doing some online research on them, and it seemed interesting enough that I decided to order it. The one thing that I wasn't sure about before I placed that order, was it's country of origin. Most websites listed no origin, one listed it as from Taiwan, and found another listing it as from China.
I didn't actually uncover it's true origin until it arrived in the mail. While I was keeping my fingers crossed for it to have been made in Taiwan, the box had it as being made in China.

What I found most strange was that nowhere on the knife itself did they place the knife's country of origin 🤔

The Boker Plus Apparo lead me to wanting to seek out a US made Buck 'Buckmaster' 184 survival knife as an addition to my collection.
Although I was able to obtain one in the condition I wanted, it sure wasn't anywhere near the low price that I paid for the Apparo, (my having paid $800 for the Buckmaster) 😱

The Buckmaster 184 then lead me into seeking out a Buckmaster 185, and once that model was obtained, my seeking out of this genre of knives was satisfied 👍😊👍

The Boker Plus Apparo is shown here on the top, with the Buckmaster 184 and 185 beneath it...

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Those Buck blades are sweet. I have seen them before. I do support Buck because they are here in Idaho where we live. I am regressing to the older stuff now so I've been sheath carrying a 3 dot 1980-81 Buck 110 with the better 440C for years now. Can't go wrong with it. No internal springs or screws that come loose or pocket clip that destroys your pants. A testament to how well it was built in that after 40 years still works flawlessly with no blade play, solid lock up and perfect centering. The best part, Made in USA. So I might actually avoid the Boker Plus Strike auto now that I'm seeing that they are most likely Made in Communist China for which I despise that country (especially after these last two years.) I will occasionally switch up a Gerber 06 Manual though. In this survival type fixed blade category, I really like the 1/4" Buck 650 Nighthawk (1995 satin) I have and the 1/4" Ontario RD6, RD7 and RD9 that I also have.
 
After sitting on the fence for an eternity I pulled the trigger. Was held back by the price v’s Boker plus logo. I needn’t have been worried. They’re made by Lionsteel I believe and they’ve done a nice job, not Reate level but not far off. The large-ish, ffg blade deploys with a thunk and smoothly drops shut. I’ve owned a few Sebenza’s over the years and none are anywhere near as comfortable to use. Yes, that’s right, comfortable. Not something you often equate with titanium frame locks but this one is. It’s really nicely proportioned too. A bigger knife but slim enough to be versatile. I think it’s the nicest production rendition of a Rexford design so far.
 
After sitting on the fence for an eternity I pulled the trigger. Was held back by the price v’s Boker plus logo. I needn’t have been worried. They’re made by Lionsteel I believe and they’ve done a nice job, not Reate level but not far off. The large-ish, ffg blade deploys with a thunk and smoothly drops shut. I’ve owned a few Sebenza’s over the years and none are anywhere near as comfortable to use. Yes, that’s right, comfortable. Not something you often equate with titanium frame locks but this one is. It’s really nicely proportioned too. A bigger knife but slim enough to be versatile. I think it’s the nicest production rendition of a Rexford design so far.
No pictures?
 
A shame that Boker labels this as a collaboration and custom design with Gedraitis. Nothing but a knock off the original Applegate. Wonder what Rex would say if he were still with us.
I checked the Boker USA website and it has Todd Rexford accredited. Also, Todd Rexford is alive is he not?

* Edit to add. Ah, you're talking about a different knife all together.
 
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Glad I found your post. I was looking at the Boker Plus Strike auto in either D2 or S30V but I thought they were made in Germany. If they are made in Communist China I want nothing to do with them. These are being sold on many knife sites for between $39 and $69 all over. So is the Plus line from Boker Chinese crap? Because I have seen videos that were impressive where people were trying to get the auto to fail and it wouldn't. But again if they are Communist China made, I want nothing to do with Boker.
Protip: Taiwan is a Democratic nation, feel no guilt buying a Taiwanese knife. You ain't supporting communists.
 
Out of sight, out of mind
I'm seeing that more and more.
My recent purchase of a CRKT Sting dagger is just another example of this. They used to place the origin 'Taiwan' on the blade. Then, it seems they went to China made and no longer is there a mark of origin on the knife.
I'm not sure the loophole they use, but I wish that loophole would be closed.
My reading and understanding of the law for such imports is that they do have to be marked, but, I don't believe it has to be a permanent mark. So, maybe a sticker is placed on each one to pass importation/customs requirements, then the stickers could simply be removed once they arrive at their final warehouse destination.
I'm just guessing, of course, since I don't actually know how knife companies are getting away with not having country of origin on the knives themselves... But, some companies are doing it!
I find it to be a sketchy/shady practice.
Ordering online makes it tough, since one can't know for sure what the markings will be on your ordered knife, with most dealers/vendors only putting up stock photos on their websites that may or may not show the latest markings on the knives being shipped out by them 😠

The more I see knife companies playing these games, the more it's pushing me to want to buy more vintage knives, then maybe only purchasing current models on rare occasions, and only if I feel very confident in that product.
 
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