Boker Plus these days o.0

marcus52AR said:
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Made in Europe, designed by a popular maker and distributed by a well established company.

I don't see why they can't sell these for that price. Actually, I'm sure they will, it's a model I've looked at in the past. This price range suits me more than the $40 cheapie or $3000 custom.

If it was traditional CF rather than marble I'd be all over it.
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Made in China !
MSRP: $589.00
:^)))
 
Boker and other firms have no problem marking their knives with Italy, Germany, USA, or whatever other region of the world that the Westerners usually approve their products being made in. But, if it's made in China, all the sudden.... POOF!... Where's the country of origin on the knife?... In my opinion, it's no mistake... Again, I see it as being a very sketchy/shady practice.
 
25 years ago "new" Boker Magnum was made in Taiwan
later Boker Plus was made in china
now both are in 95% made in china !
Boker (without name addition) is made in Germany, but 2/3 only !!
Rest in china and Argentina
End is very close ...
 
Most of the time knives cost whatever the design costs to make, at least that's the case with Spyderco, and they still come up with some pretty pricy designs.
 
Zulus said:
25 years ago "new" Boker Magnum was made in Taiwan
later Boker Plus was made in china
now both are in 95% made in china !
Boker (without name addition) is made in Germany, but 2/3 only !!
Rest in china and Argentina
End is very close ...
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I have no problem with Boker Arbolito made in Argentina.
Boker Arbolito in Argentina is a Boker branch, not a Boker sub contractor.
I own a Boker Arbolito made in Argentina, my 'El Gigante' model Bowie. It is not only marked with Argentina being country of it's origin, but also has it's steel grade marked as well, N690.
It was one of my most satisfying online purchases... it being so well made 👍

It seems Argentina made Boker Arbolito knives are a sleeper.

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Boker plus has their moments. I have their Charles Marlowe designed squail and bullpup!!! Both are top notch!
I really don't care much about the steel as long as it's not an alphabet sandwich. Squail is 440c & Bullpup is vg-10... Two top notch steels and both seem to be heat treated well!!
 

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A few years ago Boker had the Patriot and the USA classic models, which are made in US by a factory own by Fox, therefore bear the name of Boker Plus. Basically a Buck "bantam" with 154cm instead of 420HC, at quite fair price. It was during the time people asked for "Buck with better steel", you can check this forums for posts back then.
Yet, it was more or less of a flop. Because of the name Boker Plus has such bad reputation? Because of the quality of the knife? Because of something else? People here show off their Chinese made backed by big name makers at similar price every now and then without any harsh critic. I feel like a double standard sometimes.
 
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Boker is what would happen if Spyderco branded their knives based more around factories of origin and all the different divisions. They also have a freakishly big catalogue, sort of like Spyderco. The Boker M4 Sherman-Damast looks very cool.


Boker Solingen, with a tree logo, is a mark for Made in Germany. There's also Boker Manufactur and I'm still not 100% what the deal is there.

Boker Arbolito are made in Argentina. I haven't gotten around to buying any of their fixed blades yet, but they look nice and at some point I'll probably get at least one. If it's a Arbolito folder it's made in China, because their factory don't make folders.

Boker Plus is made in Europe, the US (via FOX Cutlery), and Asia. There seems to be have been a definite shift in the Boker Plus knives to move production to China for most models. There are still 11 Boker Plus knives made in the US, 1 super expensive Italian Boker Plus with M390 steel, 36 made in Taiwan, but the vast majority made in China. Other than the real high speed Italian model, the Chinese made ones (especially those not made from 440 steel) seem to be the best of the Boker Plus division (other than the Cop Tool that is made in Taiwan). I've seen a few Boker Plus knives that used to be made in Europe now made in China, like the Pro Pry.

Boker Magnum are the bargain bin that run the gamut from gas station knives to all right beaters, mostly made with Chinese 440 steel. It's kind of strange to have your bargain bin knife division called "Magnum".

There's also Boker: Manly (Bulgaria), Old Bear (Italy), Higo (China), and probably half a dozen other divisions out there. It's a bit like trying to figure out what Nestle owns.
 
I'm not going to be buying ANY M390 Titanium framelocks, it's like I have a thing against it for some reason, I have no idea why. How some people here just don't like the comp lock? I don't like M390 Ti Framelocks, or, I'd like it if it was free.

This seems about just as unexciting as any new Reate, WE... I don't know, whole buncha brands. Certainly seems no worse.
 
A little bit more about Boker Arbolito...

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If you’re a hunter, or any kind of avid outdoorsman, Boker Arbolito stuff will make you drool. Quality control for these knives is probably on par, if not better than, the German made knives. The main difference is usually the materials and style. They source a lot of local South American wood for the handles with some bone and Micarta thrown in every now and then, so everything out of this factory looks amazing.

They’re currently on a strange trajectory, as they’ve recently released a spring assisted folder. Obviously their factory in Argentina is only equipped to make fixed blade knives so they have to outsource the folders designs to China. I suspect any other folding designs from the Arbolito branch will also be made there. Aside from that, though, Boker Arbolito is is mostly wooden, fixed-blade goodness. Great if you’re the woodsy type with a little money to throw around, but if you just need a handy, low-cost EDC, the Arbolito branch is definitely not the place to look.
 
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