BOS S30V mini alpha hunter ?

sorry for my poor english.

you make me speechless and hopeless.:(

so .........i.......

see like this, i only can order to the BUCK custom shop by myself.
 
I understand you ok. Your English is better than some of the Americans here (and we won't even talk about the Australians). :)

Didn't intend to cause hopelessness......intended to tell you that if the basic knife is truly from Buck.........you have a great knife if you just get rid of the etch (which is not that difficult).

BOS-treated 420HC is an excellent steel......one of the best in the world.

As to ordering from Buck......you have to talk to them about that.

I don't know if they can ship to you.
 
BG42EDGE said:
I understand you ok. Your English is better than some of the Americans here (and we won't even talk about the Australians). :)

Didn't intend to cause hopelessness......intended to tell you that if the basic knife is truly from Buck.........you have a great knife if you just get rid of the etch (which is not that difficult).

BOS-treated 420HC is an excellent steel......one of the best in the world.

As to ordering from Buck......you have to talk to them about that.

I don't know if they can ship to you.
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i do not worship s30v without brain, in fact, i have 110 series more than 20 , some of them made from 420hc,440c,bg42,and damascus steel. i knew the history of steel using by BUCK. i like BUCK, so i like BUCK's history, design, style, materials etc,includ steel using, ofcourse 420hc.:thumbup:

for s30v , i just want to experience it in a little difference.....just for it was heattreated by bos's technological process........just for a special 110 in my collections.

i felt hopeless because i have no ability to identify the knife and the seller that i believed. as a BUCK's fans and as a collector, i regret for myself.......

as to shipping, i think i can go to the custom shop in person, i will carry the ietm and walk back by my pair of foot........:D

now,i am looking for a 110 that is one of Alaskan guide series , and a 110 that is stamped "designer's chioce" and "ATS-34".......that is great.
 
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Well, don't despair until Joe Houser responds with an official Buck answer.

Many strange and suspicious knives have been pictured here lately and some turned out to be ok. Who knows? Your odd etching could be ok, too.

If you can walk into the Custom Shop you are indeed lucky......and that's the best way to buy.

Glad to hear you are interested in Buck history. Have you visited the Buck factory in China? Or can you tell us what city in China that the factory is located?

I've always been curious about that and nobody has been able to answer in the past.
 
BG42EDGE said:
Well, don't despair until Joe Houser responds with an official Buck answer.

Many strange and suspicious knives have been pictured here lately and some turned out to be ok. Who knows? Your odd etching could be ok, too.

If you can walk into the Custom Shop you are indeed lucky......and that's the best way to buy.

Glad to hear you are interested in Buck history. Have you visited the Buck factory in China? Or can you tell us what city in China that the factory is located?

I've always been curious about that and nobody has been able to answer in the past.
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anyway , thank you.

i just heard that the BUCK's authorized manufacturer is in Yangjiang city in China Guangdong province, such as some of 3 series knives were manufactured from there. but i have never been there.
 
xia63 said:
i do not worship s30v without brain, in fact, i have 110 series more than 20 , some of them made from 420hc,440c,bg42,and damascus steel. i knew the history of steel using by BUCK. i like BUCK, so i like BUCK's history, design, style, materials etc,includ steel using, ofcourse 420hc.:thumbup:

for s30v , i just want to experience it in a little difference.....just for it was heattreated by bos's technological process........just for a special 110 in my collections.

i felt hopeless because i have no ability to identify the knife and the seller that i believed. as a BUCK's fans and as a collector, i regret for myself.......

as to shipping, i think i can go to the custom shop in person, i will carry the ietm and walk back by my pair of foot........:D
now,i am looking for a 110 that is one of Alaskan guide series , and a 110 that is stamped "designer's chioce" and "ATS-34".......that is great.
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The S30V is a desireable upgrade and I hope for your sake that's what it is. In most cases the extra cost for the S30V (other than from the CS) is fairly substantial. For instance, the Vantage Pro is $35 more than the Avid (13C26 Sandvick) and $56 more than the Select with 420HC.

I'm sure some of that is because of the G-10 scales on the Pro, but even if that was an extra $10, it is still a pretty sizeable percentage increase for the premium steel.
 
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Plumberdv said:
The S30V is a desireable upgrade and I hope for your sake that's what it is. In most cases the extra cost for the S30V (other than from the CS) is fairly substantial. For instance, the Vantage Pro is $35 more than the Avid (13C26 Sandvick) and $56 more than the Select with 420HC.

I'm sure some of that is because of the G-10 scales on the Pro, but even if that was an extra $10, it is still a pretty sizeable percentage increase for the premium steel.
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Even if you look at the Ergo series, S30V is quite a bit more, and they have a rubber handle (no rosewood!!) The mini alpha, if it is truly S30V that xia63 posted about will be very rare as noone has seen one yet! ;) I would pay a premium for an uncoated S30V mini alpha... its great stuff :D

One point from your other thread Dave about the new 2011 Buck model? They are counterfeiting a knife that sells online for $7.99-$12.99---> The Buck transport (Or China cuttlebug) whatever name you call it. If they can get another even $15 out of mini alphas just by putting an etch on it, I bet they go for it!

I definately look forward to Joes info next week!!
 
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Joe......there's this and another thread "Here Come the Chinese" that we need you or Chuck or somebody to give us some answers from Buck about counterfeits.

Thanks much.
 
xia63 said:
thank you sir. Your word make me more worried.:(:(

Earlier this year, i got some custom edition 110 from my seller that 110 was made from bos s30v .
"when we choose the style of inscriptions, we were told by BUCK not to stamp the bos fire logo. only using laser etch. because it may cause more defective products ....." , this is the seller said to me.

so, i was forced to accept these products, you can see them at:
http://xia63.blog.163.com/album/#m=1&aid=206712667&p=1
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Joe, have you looked at the pics in this link? Did Buck ever etch an BOS mark and S30V way out on the side of the blade like this?
 
Plumberdv said:
That scenario could also explain the strange location of the Bos S30V etch on the blade. It would probably be a lot easier to put it there rather than right next to the bloster where the stamp is, with the blade already in the knife.
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That might not be the answer either. :confused: There are others that have the Bos symbol etched and out on the blade.

SnakewoodGen5b.jpg


ErgoSmallgameAvidb.jpg


VantageS30Vetch.jpg
 
I guess the remaining question (for our buddy Xia) is whether or not the Custom Shop etches them like that.

I can't believe they would......but strange things have been happening lately.

I know etching saves money, but it looks cheap and cheesy.

Not exactly what you'd expect on a premium quality knife from a Custom Shop!!!
 
BG42EDGE said:
Joe, have you looked at the pics in this link? Did Buck ever etch an BOS mark and S30V way out on the side of the blade like this?
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The knife is legit. The Cert is definatly one of ours. I have no idea why the bos would be in that position. I'll take a look, probably can't tell at this point.
All lasering custom shop or production is done by the same area and same people.
 
Yes, a quick call to the Custom Shop should get the answer.

The Cert would be the easiest thing to copy and counterfeit.....that's child's play.

The knife, of course, is a huge challenge to copy. It does appear, from looking at the latest stuff out there, that they are getting closer to duplicating 110s.
 
The cert can be reproduced easily, but the Signiture would be harder.


on the 196, is it hard stamped on the Buck side and lasered on the S30V side?
 
His pictures and links (to his blog) are in his first post.

The 110 pics are farther along through the thread.
 
J Hubbard said:
The cert can be reproduced easily, but the Signiture would be harder.
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True, but not very hard and rarely noticed anyway. My wife could do it easily, so I'm sure there are at least a few Chinese with the skills.

:)
 
Guess we need Xia back, then.

Looks like stamped on left and etched on right, but only he could say for sure.
 
sorry for late, cause play with my little son......

thanks guys, let me answer.

the 196: all mark are laser etched. includ BUCK/ USA/ 196 <-/ BOS s30v. Other accessory same to 196rws.

the 110: BUCK/custom/USA , is stamped. BUCK is script font.
BOS S30V, is laser etched.

the factory model number lable on box is :
0110BFSIC---(water buffalo)
0110WASIC---(walnut)
0110oKSIC---(oak)

the 110's accessory includ : cert paper/ tan leather sheath/standard yellow box.

i ask to the seller, he said that design the position of BOS s30v, in order to avoid erased by opening and closing , because BUCK refuse using stamped.
meanwhile, he refuse the BUCK's another kind of design, that is stamped but shallow, like to BOS ats-34 of 923CCSLE. and that is recommended by BUCK custom shop.(i have another cherrywood 110 that use this stampd on the tail of blade. both of BUCK/cusotm logo/USA and BOS S30V on other side).
 
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