Breaking blade while batoning

I would have to echo the warning about steel in wood. Any tree that was wrapped in barbwire will envelop said wire and its there for a long time. Same with nails. Now out in the woods not super common, but something to be mindful of and look for the signs. The tree will have a slightly discernable ring around it. For a while it will look as if it were pursed lips. Then it will fade into the ring.
 
I baton the shit out of my 4 with no problems and if u do u get a new one so why worry
 
I think I remember Jeff saying that the majority of the Izula's they have replaced under warranty were broken while batoning. They are tough, but poor/sloppy technique increases the chance of damaging them.
 
spydusse said:
I baton the shit out of my 4 with no problems and if u do u get a new one so why worry
Click to expand...

Piss poor attitude in my opinion. "So what if I break my knife, I will get a new one." This type of thinking is what forces prices increases on product. I respect tools. I buy tools with the best warranties in case I have to use them under extreme conditions that could cause a tool to fail. If I break them then I know they will be replaced but I never have the attitude of "oh-well if I break it I will get a new one". Maybe I misunderstood your post but it sounded like a piss poor attitude to me.
 
Last edited:
Hopefully this doesn't upset jeffs idea of a proper attitude if u want a blade you will never break buy a busse
 
spydusse said:
Hopefully this doesn't upset jeffs idea of a proper attitude if u want a blade you will never break buy a busse
Click to expand...

I agree, and would rather people do that if they have a carefree attitude about the tools they buy
 
Not to mention if I ever did break my esee or any other knife for doing something it was not meant to be used for I would never send it in for a new one .I would buy a new one that said if used it for batoning and it broke I would send it for a new cause baroning in my eyes falls into a category for what esee knives are used for and I'm not putting it threw dried oak
 
We pretty much warranty anything and everything, no questions. Everyone around here knows that already though.
 
Aye,Jeff, Aye....

I just want to mention some attitude factors I think may be important......The place to find out what you can expect from ANY blade is your backyard......ANY blade has limits....Find them where it only costs money not your life.....My own experience clubbing (when I was coming up well mannered outdoorsy people just DID NOT do things like that to knives) are comparatively short ( maybe 20 years) but I have beat knives through most woods during that time......At least five or six types of oay a couple of kinds of hickory pine, birch, cedar, poplar, the junipers etc, etc.....The dumbest was a horribly twisted piece of desert juniper that I attacked with a machax and a framers hammer.....DUMB, dumb, dumb.......The Machax lived and so did I..........Luck.....I tend to be pretty comfortable batonning with almost any knife.....I DO NOT use a hammer any more..... It be dangerous as well as not doing your knife any long term good, IF it survives the near term....I even (gently, Very gently ) delicately baton with a SAK.....Use your head and you will be fine.....If you run into a cantankerous bolt of wood switch to another one...It conserves your energy as well as the blade........Any of Jeff and Mike's blades will take a huge amount of abuse.....But what IS the point if it is not an emergency..........(Unless you are Tom Gannon and have a point to make).......If you think you are overdoing it you probably are......

Hope this helps......

All Best...

ethan
 
I understand that and that is just one of the many things I love about company .I'm just saying and think if I did something stupid and broke my blade cause of karma and character I just wouldn't sendit in and have never had to use ur warranty cause ur blades are some awesome things . The question asked should I worry bout batoning breaking my knife I said no I and if u did break it batoning something the knofe is used for they will back it up I'm not saying go baton metal pipes
 
We fully agree that our knives are made to be batoned, and expect them to be used that way. But with that said, anything with a rockwell hardness of 58 is physically built/designed to cut.
 
Although Busse has a warranty that seems to cover almost everything (stupidity included), as does ESEE, I think Jerry, and most of his hard-core Busse users (yes I said users :D ) would frown on an attitude that disrespects his products. That's just a hunch and I don't speak for Jerry or his co. but that's the vibe I have gotten over the years.
 
Ha I know ur not impling I don't use my knives. Only have exp in marines and a farm /plant nursery for eight years .and I do use them for what they are made for. The guy asked if he could baton jeff randall says yes
 
spydusse said:
Ha I know ur not impling I don't use my knives. Only have exp in marines and a farm /plant nursery for eight years .and I do use them for what they are made for. The guy asked if he could baton jeff randall says yes
Click to expand...

No not implying. If that's the point I was trying to make I'd just say it. And I really couldn't because I do not know you. :)

But I was addressing the broader theme that seems to be in the air on various forums where people are doing ridiculous things to their knives with the attitude of "who care because I'll just get a new one".

And I do not consider batoning abuse.
 
Haha sorry got in a defensive mode when I was told I have a piss poor attitude ... u won't catch me wearing any 1970s hockey masks .. I was saying if it broke batoning wich I believe is something I would use a esee for it will be replaced
 
spydusse said:
Haha sorry got in a defensive mode when I was told I have a piss poor attitude ... u won't catch me wearing any 1970s hockey masks .. I was saying if it broke batoning wich I believe is something I would use a esee for it will be replaced
Click to expand...

No worries. :D :thumbup:
 
Cant speak for the 6, but i have the 5 and its an absolute TANK. I also own an RTAK II(sorry Jeff Randall, but i like the junglas better just dont have the funds to get one) and sometimes i kinda feel like it may bust, but it never has. I do not get that feeling when im using my 5, i think its just that hollow ground .25" blade that instills an extra kind of confidence when your batoning.
 
my rtak 2 broke on me when i was batonning a piece of 5"diameter of bradford pear.i would post pic but cant figure out how to do it
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top