Brian Tighe makes good on bad situation! Positive ending!

Terry M.

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Hey guys/gals. I‘ve been around these parts long enough to know that unsubstantiated bitching about a maker or company is frowned upon. I took great lengths to resolve this issue before coming on here. I still won’t name names yet but I’d appreciate any and all advice.

my story:

On November 6th 2021 I purchased a custom knife via a very reputable on-line store. I received the knife and was very pleased and went about carrying it right away. Within a week I was coming out of a convenience store and caught the pocket clip on the door frame and sprung (bent) it out. I was fortunate enough to notice right away and didn’t lose the knife altogether. I contacted the maker’s company, got a mailing address and quickly sent the knife in for repair.

After not hearing any news for 2 months I called the company to see if the knife had made it there. I was told it was received but that it was going to be a difficult repair. I expected this. Fast forward 2 more months and I haven’t heard any news. No big deal, I made a followup to the company on May 15th via FB messenger. I was told due to the nature of the repair the gentleman that usually does them could not fix it and was holding it for the maker himself. Great! I settled in for more of a wait and was pleased that the maker himself was going to repair.

I had heard nothing by July 10th so I once again FB messenger the company. My message went unread until July 26th when I’d had enough and I called the company personally. I spoke to the gentleman that normally does repairs and was told that he had sent my knife to the maker’s personal shop to fix and he would call and speak with the maker and get me an update. He seemed rather put out by my phone call but oh well, I’m talking a $900 knife here. I figured he was having an off day and asked twice that he call me back with an update. He promised he would.

July 30th rolls around, no update again. I decide I’ve been way to nice with this company and email the maker himself asking if he has my knife and any update.
On August 7th I received a return email from the maker apologizing for the delay and that he has never had the knife in his personal shop, that the gentleman at the company told him that he would repair and send back to me! I responded that I was very concerned that no one seems to have my knife and could he look into it for me? He responded 2 days later that he , again, never received the knife and that his company was supposed to do the repair! I asked him if he’s suggesting that I call his company again myself and find out what’s going on? He replied that “he didn’t have the knife”.
This last conversation took place on Aug 10th, it’s been 9 months since I sent it in and I’ve weighed the decision to come on here and get advice and finally decided to do so.
sorry for the long post but I wanted to be as objective as possible.

What is your honest advice?
Thank you!
Terry
 
I am assuming (bad, I know) that you required it be signed for when it was delivered since it is a high value item. They would be getting a demand from me for a replacement ASAP. Be nice in doing so. Also, let the maker know just so he is in the loop. In the end, his reputation is also on the line because it is his authorized repair facility. If they refuse to replace it, advise the maker. If he doesn't help, put them on full blast on social media and advise him you are going to do so.
 
I am assuming (bad, I know) that you required it be signed for when it was delivered since it is a high value item. They would be getting a demand from me for a replacement ASAP. Be nice in doing so. Also, let the maker know just so he is in the loop. In the end, his reputation is also on the line because it is his authorized repair facility. If they refuse to replace it, advise the maker. If he doesn't help, put them on full blast on social media and advise him you are going to do so.

Yeah, unfortunately I agree with this.
 
The first thing to do, if you haven't done it already, is collect and preserve all records of communication.

It sounds to me like someone lost the knife and doesn't want to take responsibility for it. It also sounds like a slip-shod operation.

It also sounds to me like you've been nice enough for long enough. I think it's time to NOT be nice. You've been getting the runaround long enough, I think it's time to be a hard-ass.

Being nice is a good policy and tactic up to a point. But at a certain point "niceness" is interpreted as weakness and a willingness to accept whatever line of BS you're served. Dishonest people take full advantage of other peoples inclination to be nice.

I would threaten legal action. I would threaten to involve my lawyer, to call the Attorney General of whatever state the business is in (making sure to mention the name of the AG), and I would threaten to blast the maker and company all over the internet.

But that's me. I've had to take a few people to court in my life who thought they could screw me out of what they owed me. I'm the kind of person who will gladly pay ten grand in lawyer fees to force some a-hole to pay me the 1 grand he thought he could screw me out of.

There's a time to be nice, and a time to STOP being nice.

I hope it works out for you.
 
The first thing to do, if you haven't done it already, is collect and preserve all records of communication.

It sounds to me like someone lost the knife and doesn't want to take responsibility for it. It also sounds like a slip-shod operation.

It also sounds to me like you've been nice enough for long enough. I think it's time to NOT be nice. You've been getting the runaround long enough, I think it's time to be a hard-ass.

Being nice is a good policy and tactic up to a point. But at a certain point "niceness" is interpreted as weakness and a willingness to accept whatever line of BS you're served. Dishonest people take full advantage of other peoples inclination to be nice.

I would threaten legal action. I would threaten to involve my lawyer, to call the Attorney General of whatever state the business is in (making sure to mention the name of the AG), and I would threaten to blast the maker and company all over the internet.

But that's me. I've had to take a few people to court in my life who thought they could screw me out of what they owed me. I'm the kind of person who will gladly pay ten grand in lawyer fees to force some a-hole to pay me the 1 grand he thought he could screw me out of.

There's a time to be nice, and a time to STOP being nice.

I hope it works out for you.

I think this is exactly what I needed to hear. That and to know that I had been nice for long enough. Thanks!
 
Whoever the (shady?) person is who you finally dealt with at the original site appears to have misguided you.

I would contact the OWNER of the site with all this info and get them involved.

Yes, what you have subjected is an inconvenient task.

Yes, it needs a specialist.

No, it does not deserve to be put off this long or neglected.

Go to the TOP politely and firmly. The maker can't do a thing, it appears.

Good luck.
 
Update****

I spoke with the gentleman I had originally spoke with at the maker’s company today. I had the name and number of the state’s attorney general locked and loaded. He apologized up one side and down the other but apparently when he sent my knife to the maker it got caught up and lost in customs! The maker is now retired and I have no way of getting another he says. He offered me a non-custom but understands that in no way will that replace the original’s value. He said give him a few days and he would speak to the maker and see what other offers they can make me since that offer is unacceptable. Never was a mention made of a refund.

Thoughts?
 
Update****

I spoke with the gentleman I had originally spoke with at the maker’s company today. I had the name and number of the state’s attorney general locked and loaded. He apologized up one side and down the other but apparently when he sent my knife to the maker it got caught up and lost in customs! The maker is now retired and I have no way of getting another he says. He offered me a non-custom but understands that in no way will that replace the original’s value. He said give him a few days and he would speak to the maker and see what other offers they can make me since that offer is unacceptable. Never was a mention made of a refund.

Thoughts?

I'd hear what these "other offers" are, and then I'd start legal proceedings. The fact is, this admission is proof that you were lied to, and it took months to get the truth out of these people. Your $900* Custom knife is gone, and either buddy comes out of "retirement" and makes you a new one, or you two come to a conclusion of what a real settlement to make you whole would look like. I would also start combing the internet to see if you can find other examples of this maker's work either sold, or currently on sale at one of the big sites like Arizona Customs or wherever to try to determine how much you're actually owed, as a result of this lost knife.



* $900? Hell, if this maker known at all with a dedicated fanbase, that knife could have been worth a lot more now that they've retired!!
 
I'd hear what these "other offers" are, and then I'd start legal proceedings. The fact is, this admission is proof that you were lied to, and it took months to get the truth out of these people. Your $900* Custom knife is gone, and either buddy comes out of "retirement" and makes you a new one, or you two come to a conclusion of what a real settlement to make you whole would look like. I would also start combing the internet to see if you can find other examples of this maker's work either sold, or currently on sale at one of the big sites like Arizona Customs or wherever to try to determine how much you're actually owed, as a result of this lost knife.



* $900? Hell, if this maker known at all with a dedicated fanbase, that knife could have been worth a lot more now that they've retired!!
All very very good points.

*update to the update

The gentleman called me back and says he spoke to the maker and he’s going to put together a new knife as close to the specs of the original as possible. A truly customized knife, this satisfies me as long as I don’t have to wait a year for it.
Thanks to all who have offered advice and counsel.
 
I just read your last post. Here is what I was typing-


"Return MY knife NOW, or pay me $900 for losing my knife. NOW". That would be my position.

Too many excuses. More waiting.

Whomever received the knife is responsible for it. If they shipped it to someone else to be fixed, and it got lost, stolen, whatever, THEY, the original recipient who accepted it from the carrier you used to ship it with is still responsible for it, and they are responsible for reimbursing you for it's loss.

As far as a new knife being made, even if that is a legitimate offer, how long would that take? More time to string you along and hope that you just give up out of frustration. And if the guy is retired, why is he retired? Bad eyesight? Arthritis? Does he still have the ability to produce a quality knife worth $900, or would it be something just slapped together to try and placate you. And if you wait several more months for a replacement, and it sucks, you might be stuck with it because you agreed to a replacement.

Considering that you've been waiting NINE MONTHS just to find out what happened to a knife that already exists, I don't want to imagine what a series of headaches and frustrations it would be waiting to get a new knife made.

I try to be optimistic, but there are too many red flags for me. In my business life I've seen it all- endless excuses and stories. Endless stalling "Oh, I promise, just a few more days, a week at the most". And of course the "apologies". There is no better way to string someone along and try to diffuse them by making a very sincere sounding apology. Because "nice" people are always inclined to accept a sincere sounding apology.

What I keep coming back to is NINE MONTHS. I think the time for accepting excuses, stories, apologies, and any talk of replacement ended several months ago. If it takes them NINE MONTHS to offer an apology and suggest a solution, of what value could they possibly be.

I'm a nice guy. I'm a laid-back, mellow guy. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But that would all come to an end after NINE MONTHS.

I would want to get out NOW. And the best way I see to get out is a full refund.

Along with the name of the Attorney General, I would also look up the name of the District Attorney (I've been assuming the vendor is in the US). I'm no lawyer, but accepting $900 worth of merchandise, with the agreement that it will be returned, and then not returning it or paying the dollar value, sure sounds like larceny to me.



That is what I had to say before your last post.

I hope it works out for you. But so far, the people you are dealing with do not inspire confidence. Good luck.
 
I just read your last post. Here is what I was typing-


"Return MY knife NOW, or pay me $900 for losing my knife. NOW". That would be my position.

Too many excuses. More waiting.

Whomever received the knife is responsible for it. If they shipped it to someone else to be fixed, and it got lost, stolen, whatever, THEY, the original recipient who accepted it from the carrier you used to ship it with is still responsible for it, and they are responsible for reimbursing you for it's loss.

As far as a new knife being made, even if that is a legitimate offer, how long would that take? More time to string you along and hope that you just give up out of frustration. And if the guy is retired, why is he retired? Bad eyesight? Arthritis? Does he still have the ability to produce a quality knife worth $900, or would it be something just slapped together to try and placate you. And if you wait several more months for a replacement, and it sucks, you might be stuck with it because you agreed to a replacement.

Considering that you've been waiting NINE MONTHS just to find out what happened to a knife that already exists, I don't want to imagine what a series of headaches and frustrations it would be waiting to get a new knife made.

I try to be optimistic, but there are too many red flags for me. In my business life I've seen it all- endless excuses and stories. Endless stalling "Oh, I promise, just a few more days, a week at the most". And of course the "apologies". There is no better way to string someone along and try to diffuse them by making a very sincere sounding apology. Because "nice" people are always inclined to accept a sincere sounding apology.

What I keep coming back to is NINE MONTHS. I think the time for accepting excuses, stories, apologies, and any talk of replacement ended several months ago. If it takes them NINE MONTHS to offer an apology and suggest a solution, of what value could they possibly be.

I'm a nice guy. I'm a laid-back, mellow guy. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. But that would all come to an end after NINE MONTHS.

I would want to get out NOW. And the best way I see to get out is a full refund.

Along with the name of the Attorney General, I would also look up the name of the District Attorney (I've been assuming the vendor is in the US). I'm no lawyer, but accepting $900 worth of merchandise, with the agreement that it will be returned, and then not returning it or paying the dollar value, sure sounds like larceny to me.



That is what I had to say before your last post.

I hope it works out for you. But so far, the people you are dealing with do not inspire confidence. Good luck.
This is a really good post. It gives me plenty to think about. Hmmmmm……. I’ve been called too nice before. Thanks for taking the time to reply
 
"A truly customized knife, this satisfies me as long as I don’t have to wait a year for it." Says you.

SO - I would say that that sentiment needs to be conveyed and that you need assurances or an immediate refund. I'd be willing to wait 3 more months (that's one year from the start of this fiasco) but no longer. Basically - this can't drag into 2023.

If they can't say yes without fail to this time line or better - REFUND REFUND REFUND - NOW NOW NOW. IMHO.
 
Unfortunately I think names need to be named. If there are $900 knives floating around that may require difficult pocket clip repair that can only be done by the company, others need to know. Especially since this situation has occurred and the maker is retired.
 
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At the prompting of more than one member here I decided to post who the maker /company is.

Brian Tighe and his partnership with Brian Tighe and Friends.

I’ll keep this thread updated as needed.

Brian was making knives as of May 2022 according to his Instagram page and his knife maker website is still up and running.

The company handling the Tighe & Friends stuff is these guys: http://hytechtool.com/

A small machine shop in Pennsylvania. Might need to take this up the chain because something smells fishy 🐟
 
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