broke my izula :(

[TWBryan]

I have the BK14 on pre order.:thumbup:I was thinking about an Izula in the future and possibly an RC4,but after seeing how the op got treated here. Well,I'll spend money elsewhere.

i love all my beckers too. i think becker gives you the basic hard use knife at a lower cost, with means for customization. thats why you see so many people doing their thing and making handles for them.

where ESEE gives you the final product, all finished and ready. <which is why they cost a little more.>

either way you get a high value knife, that wants to be used.

ESEE and kabar have the same basic warranty. any knife from either company was made to be tested in really life circumstances.

if your like me and love both companies...buy the BK14:thumbup:

 

[teacher]

I have the BK14 on pre order.:thumbup:I was thinking about an Izula in the future and possibly an RC4,but after seeing how the op got treated here. Well,I'll spend money elsewhere.

"but after seeing how the op got treated here. Well,I'll spend money elsewhere.".... that statement is beyond me.

How was he treated except told by many people, as well as one of the owners of the company; where to send his knife for replacement?????

The "opinions" expressed by others, myself included; are nothing more than that..... our opinions. We have nothing to do with how ESEE runs their business, nor should we.

We all have opinions however, just like you do. So if you decide to "spend your money elsewhere" because of your perceptions of those "opinions".... you are the one will be missing out on the ESEE quality.

In fact, I will buy two more extra knives to replace the the one's you were, "thinking about" and might "possibly" buy in the future.

 

[TheGame]

I have the BK14 on pre order.:thumbup:I was thinking about an Izula in the future and possibly an RC4,but after seeing how the op got treated here. Well,I'll spend money elsewhere.

May I ask why? We only posted our opinions. Sure, the warranty will cover it, but that shouldn't be the reason to buy the knife. You are buying a knife, not a warranty. The warranty is just the icing on the cake, so to speak. Most people should never need to use the warranty, so it really shouldn't be that big of a deal in my opinion.

And if one post makes the whole community bad, I fail to see the logic in that.

 

[TWBryan]

So,this guy breaks his much-loved edc knife.He probably feels bad enough about it without everyone including the knife company commenting on how stupid it was to use the knife that way.
These knives are made for survival right? Heavens forbid they might get used and abused! Quick put it under glass so the finish won't get scuffed. .
I watched this thread from the beginning thinking this was the situation in which I would see a company stand up,and stand by it's warranty.What did I see? A bunch of fan boys suggesting he shouldn't even turn it in for warranty. What then is the point of paying extra for a knife,with a "no questions asked" warranty? As far as I am concerned based on materials alone you are paying extra. You can buy a Kabar 7" for about $50 or an RC6 ,for well over a hundred. It's the same steel. What's the difference? Warranty maybe?

 

[teacher]

~~~~~~~ well, everyone is entitled to their opinion,

+1 ..... I totally agree. :thumbup:

See here is my problem with what your saying. Prying may or may not be outright abuse. IMO knives are general use tools, ever the poorest quality knife cannot be broken by cutting alone. If a knife breaks as I'm prying a rubber grommet from a fitting is that abuse? Hell no, my fingernail would work just as well. Then again if you were trying to pry a cinder block from a wall, it would be something different.

Anybody with a functional brain knows the difference between the examples you are giving. Prying a "rubber grommet" is no more gross abuse than cutting cheese.

ESEE has the no questions warranty for a reason and I know your post was just trying to protect them from being taken advantage of and to insure they remain a successful company for years to come, however I need to communicate to you that your opinions could very quickly have to opposite effect.

Negative, I was not trying to "protect" ESEE from anything. I seriously doubt they need any protection from me.
I was trying to make the point that anything can be broken, [When I taught school, I had kids that could tear up a steel brick] and that in my opinion we as users had a responsibility to use tool within it's capabilities.

I did not think I needed to explain every detail of that thought, obviously though; I should have.

I am not talking about life and death situations when I say use the tool within it's capabilities. In a L&D situation, all bets are off; use it however you have to for the situation and hope for the best.

I am talking about normal situations where a user knows he should use another tool but just goes ahead and uses the wrong tool anyway because he knows he can get a new one if he screws it up.

I am talking about the situation where young, or old; Billy Bob says to his group of watching friends.... "watch this".

And let me communicate to you about my opinions. They are just that, opinions.

I do not buy ESEE knives because of their warranty, period. I buy them because I have found them to be an excellent knife at an excellent price point.... an overall quality product and excellent value.

So teacher when you make a comment it scares the hell out of me to think of logging on to see them removed due to the actions of a few people who purposely damaged their knives.

To me that is comical..... "it scares the hell out of you"???? Really???
Are you personally buying the knives because of the warranty then?

I myself buy them because they are a quality knife.... I could give a "rats rear end" about the warranty.
So I do not share your expressed fear in any way.

I'd say let R.A.T. run his company like he wants to and don't worry about it.

I feel sure he will do that and I personally do not see that there is anything to worry about when dealing with ESEE.

As for the original poster, learn from your mistakes. And go with your conscience.

+1

I did something stupid with one of my ESEE's. I asked ESEE to fix it, told them how stupid i had been, and offered to pay full price for the fix. They insisted on fixing it under warranty. As a result, I have ended up buying more ESEE's, because when I see one I like, but think, "I need another knife like I need another hole in my head," then I say to myself, "You know, they really went above and beyond for your stupidity. Just buy it and consider it money well spent on a good company." Maybe I'm the only one who thinks like that. And in reality, the knives I have bought I probably would have bought anyway, even if they hadn't fixed my stupidity. BUT, the fact they went above and beyond for me sticks in the back of my mind. And they did it RIGHT.

Excellent testimonial......... :thumbup:

 

[TheGame]

So,this guy breaks his much-loved edc knife.He probably feels bad enough about it without everyone including the knife company commenting on how stupid it was to use the knife that way.
These knives are made for survival right? Heavens forbid they might get used and abused! Quick put it under glass so the finish won't get scuffed. .
I watched this thread from the beginning thinking this was the situation in which I would see a company stand up,and stand by it's warranty.What did I see? A bunch of fan boys suggesting he shouldn't even turn it in for warranty. What then is the point of paying extra for a knife,with a "no questions asked" warranty? As far as I am concerned based on materials alone you are paying extra. You can buy a Kabar 7" for about $50 or an RC6 ,for well over a hundred. It's the same steel. What's the difference? Warranty maybe?

I bought the ESEEs over the Beckers because they came with a better sheath, and better handles. Otherwise I would have gotten them. The warranty is not what I pay for. I would still buy the ESEE even without the warranty. I really don't think many people are paying for a warranty. It is the wrong reason to buy a knife.

As for the knives being put under glass? Where does that come into play at all? These are meant to be used, 100%. However, there is no need to abuse them if you have another way to do the job. If in a situation where I HAD to pry with a knife, I would. I would definitely look at my other options though.

 

[RevDevil]

we need pics!

either way the knife is under warranty. just go to the ESEE knives website and follow the procedure to return it and get a new one.

+1 Now go buy a small 3" prybar.

 

[mat_890]

Negative, I was not trying to "protect" ESEE from anything. I seriously doubt they need any protection from me.
I was trying to make the point that anything can be broken, [When I taught school, I had kids that could tear up a steel brick] and that in my opinion we as users had a responsibility to use tool within it's capabilities.

I did not think I needed to explain every detail of that thought, obviously though; I should have.

Yes you should have communicated your thoughts better, glad you agree.

I do not buy ESEE knives because of their warranty, period. I buy them because I have found them to be an excellent knife at an excellent price point.... an overall quality product and excellent value.

To me that is comical..... "it scares the hell out of you"???? Really???
Are you personally buying the knives because of the warranty then?

I myself buy them because they are a quality knife.... I could give a "rats rear end" about the warranty.
So I do not share your expressed fear in any way.

Nobody here cares why you buy ESEE knives, but people do seem to care when you slam other members with your arrogant attitudes and opinions.

I do personally buy them for the warranty and while I may be the minority on blade forums, I am part of a general majority when it comes to ESEE users. Bladeforums members do not keep ESEE afloat. Their amazing customer service, close relationship with both users and dealers, and their warranty do. This may not be true with forum users, but again it is true with others including my dealer.

I was essentially offended when you (and a few other guys) took it upon yourself to publicly scold other members who were using the warranty and customer service ESEE provided! In doing so you took away from them the very thing people love. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

He admitted his mistake, time to move on. Seeing how this thread turned I think multiple apologies are in order.

 

[teacher]

So,this guy breaks his much-loved edc knife.He probably feels bad enough about it without everyone including the knife company commenting on how stupid it was to use the knife that way.
These knives are made for survival right? Heavens forbid they might get used and abused! Quick put it under glass so the finish won't get scuffed. .
I watched this thread from the beginning thinking this was the situation in which I would see a company stand up,and stand by it's warranty.What did I see? A bunch of fan boys suggesting he shouldn't even turn it in for warranty. What then is the point of paying extra for a knife,with a "no questions asked" warranty? As far as I am concerned based on materials alone you are paying extra. You can buy a Kabar 7" for about $50 or an RC6 ,for well over a hundred. It's the same steel. What's the difference? Warranty maybe?

I got a real good laugh out of this post of yours 'TW', thanks. :thumbup:

He probably does feel bad, but no one called him "stupid".... maybe he did do something 'dumb', as it turns out.... but so what, we all have. Even you I bet.

Yeah, the knives are for survival. My truck is for transportation. BUT, if I drive it into a big oak tree on purpose at 100 mph the end result will not be good; it is not designed for that.
Dodge ain't gonna give me a new one either.

And the things you say about the company is "BS".... he was told to send it in, as well as given a link to the form that told the procedure.

He asked in the OP, "what he should do now". He received reply's ranging from "send it in" to "buy another knife & learn from your mistake". I don't think that was too brutal.

And as far as you calling some of us a "bunch of fan boys"... you made me laugh again 'TW'.

Get over yourself 'TW'... you'll get a more harmonious outcome in life.

 

[xXBLACKWATERXx]

wow that sucks they most def will give you another..

 

[teacher]

Yes you should have communicated your thoughts better, glad you agree.

I do agree, I said it. I did not take into account the mind set of some who might be reading it.

Nobody here cares why you buy ESEE knives, but people do seem to care when you slam other members with your arrogant attitudes and opinions.

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Mat, it seems I said something that must have touched a nerve in you. I'm sure somebody out there may care.... obviously not you though.

No one was slammed, you seem delusional. Go back and read closely. Sorry you felt my opinions were arrogant, they were/are not; they are just my opinions. Just as yours are yours ......

I do personally buy them for the warranty and while I may be the minority on blade forums, I am part of a general majority when it comes to ESEE users. Bladeforums members do not keep ESEE afloat. Their amazing customer service, close relationship with both users and dealers, and their warranty do. This may not be true with forum users, but again it is true with others including my dealer.

Nobody cares why you buy them either Mat. CORRECTION... somebody, might care.

I was essentially offended when you (and a few other guys) took it upon yourself to publicly scold other members who were using the warranty and customer service ESEE provided! In doing so you took away from them the very thing people love. NO QUESTIONS ASKED!

Wow, it doesn't take much to offend you does it Mat? But again, you seem delusional. Go back and read, no one did those things you speak of... some, myself included; gave our opinions. And those opinions were clearly stated as such when given.

He admitted his mistake, time to move on.

Yes he did, right up front. And Kudos to him for that... we are past that.

This thread has gone far beyond the original question the OP asked... "what do I do now". He got his answers and opinions on that. He was told where to send his knife for replacement. :thumbup:

Most of my posts have addressed "my opinions" on knife/tool use in general, regardless of brand or maker; and they were stated as such when I said them. If you do not agree with them, that is fine with me. BUT, they are what they are. :thumbup:

Seeing how this thread turned I think multiple apologies are in order.

Feel free to PM or email me with yours.

 

[all hood allen]

this thread has turned into WHINE & cheese...:thumbdn:

 

[Mrs.Shotgunner11]

This thread is going NO WHERE fast. I am closing it.

OP follow the link to get the knife replaced under the warranty. Thank you to those of you that provided the information about the warranty. I apologize your thread has turned into a pissing contest.