Broken full flat ground during batoning

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Bearzilla911

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I guess I took the Odenwolf in full flat (D2 steel) a little to far. Got into a big knot in some hardwood and was really wailing on it and then snap. I have the scandi grind version of the same knife that I'm sure could have taken the abuse. I have been using this guy for a while and have batoned through many pieces of wood but now I see the limitations of the full flat grind. I have definitely put mora's, even of slightly thinner stock, through more, but again those were all scandi ground, and not D2, ha. Overall, based on everthing else I have done with this knife, I would not hesitate to buy it again. It holds a great edge, did not have chipping or rolling issues with light chopping and carving into hard wood. I would just avoid batoning through dense knots in hard work, ha.

I plan on replacing with an Eafengrow EF131. Seems to me that a broken knife is worthy of a new knife purchase:cool:!
 

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not familiar with that brand/make........could you give some specs?

I personally Love good D2. Like you said it's great for cutting and holds an edge.
-But it's not the strongest steel. For battoning, it would need to be pretty thick.

*Jimping might of played a bigger part, than the full flat grind.
 
ferider said:
B Bearzilla911 - "I was wondering how ... Work Tuff Gear Knives compare (to Tops)"

Maybe time to buy your first WTG knife, supporting Taiwan instead of mainland China ? :)
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Yeah, I have lots of USA made knives, but I also like to play around with what I see no the market that looks cool when not purchasing something epic. Last big purchase was a Bark River Bravo 1.5 in 3V that I should be able to baton through a brick wall, ha.

Specs on this Odenwolf were the following, in regard to the other response,

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I don't know the thickness but was around 1/8 inch-ish.
 
Well, that is unfortunately one of the myriad "Made Up Brand Name" knives,...

Buying something like this will never be safe. All the social media marketing notwithstanding, it's just cheap crap,
The given steel most likely has nothing to do with what is actually used... You paid like 40 bucks for a bad product.

This brand also has some blatant copies of good knives, so the only advice I can give you is to avoid them in the future.

If your budget is limited & you still want to be able to baton with it, get yourself for example a Terävä Jäkaaripuuko 140 or a BPS HK06...

Both of these knives are very affordable and just 1000 times better than the dangerous knife like object you unfortunately wasted money on.

Good luck
 
You should take pics of the break itself so we can all see the grain structure. Cheap knife usually means they're cutting costs somewhere and a lot of times that can include skimping on the heat treat.
 
Just a thought but you're replacing a made in China D2 knife with a Made in China gussied up D2 knife. If you want to go have fun beating up a low cost knife go buy a Mora Roust or Heavy Duty Companion. Good luck breaking either one.
 
Yeah, I do have both a Robust and heavy duty companion, although my HD companion is of the stainless variety.

Of the two Odenwolves, I would think the scandi would resist more heavy duty usage because the stock is not only a little thicker, but it stays with that thickness till the scandi grind. I have used both of the Odenwolf knives (flat and scandi) for close to a year, and I have one of the mini's as well in scandi, and until this mishap, which is likely my fault, their D2 typically does very well, probably why I took this one so far.
 
The True North said:
Certainly not convinced a scandi version of the same design would have been any more durable.
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On paper it would be helpful, due to the slight increase in moment of inertia (assuming everything else is equal).
I think it's very likely there's other problems which supersede that, and I imagine it doesn't matter very much comparatively.

B Bearzilla911 your issue isn't a problem of full flat grind- there's plenty of companies that make great examples of FFG knives that are designed to take that kind of abuse.
ESEE 3, 4 and 6 are ubiquitous examples. Not all knives are created equal, or even with the same expectation of abuse.
 
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