Broken mora's?

I've seen pictures of broken busse knives, Esee knives, beckers etc. Just because a knife CAN be broken doesn't mean that there is something wrong with it. Moras are great knives, and can last lifetimes with a little care. I've got a bunch and am planning on ordering more soon. It is curious that many people discount them for their lack of a full profile tang, but you don't see a whole lot of broken moras. You'd expect to see them broken all over the place if they were actually a weak design. Just my two cents.
 
I never owned a mora up until a few months ago, and after I bought the first, I had to get one for the wife... and now I want a third. They really are nice knives. They aren't top of the line, per se... but they will perform everything you need of a knife. The handles on the companion line are very well thought out and are very comfortable. Even the blade in the previous post... it's bent... bent is much better than broken. And that knife, though bent, could still have a full lifetime of work ahead of it. Batoning is really asking a lot of most knives. Sure a lot of knives can handle it, and I'm sure there was plenty of batoning that previous blade withstood... but for the most part(absolutely nothing against batoning... I use the technique to break down my fatwood. :)), it's generally unnecessary. I think Chris hit the most important point on the head... It's 'Care' that has to be taken into account. Look at the knife you have in hand and don't ask anything of it that is out of it's capabilities.

Are they "hard use" knives? Perhaps not, but again... when, if ever, are you going to need a knife to perform the "hard use" tasks people put their knives through?

Mora is good stuff :thumbup:
 
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averageiowaguy said:
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Here is where I had a problem:

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What happened was I was batonning the knife through a small piece of wood (wrist sized) in order to split it up for a fire. The wood was really wet and I needed to get it split down to small pieces in order to get it to burn. Could I have used the machete to do it instead? Yeah. My mistake. Long story short, the Mora got halfway down the log and it flexed at the point shown. When I pulled it out the knife remained bent.

In all fairness to the Mora, I was probably asking it to do something that it wasn't built to accomplish. I wonder if we're asking the knife to do to much by slamming a piece of wood on the spine in order to force it through another piece of wood?

Is the knife in the photo "broken?" I guess it depends on who you ask. Do I trust it any longer? No.

The Scandi grind on a good Mora is an absolute joy to carve wood with and to do things like make feather sticks. Why does it have to be equivalent to knives with sturdier construction? The Mora is fantastic at what it was designed to do. It doesn't have to be the answer to every problem. It doesn't have to be a supertool.
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I have a 3 1/2 " Scout wooden handled SS Mora
And batoning thru a 2" round of a dry knotty pine, the blade also bent, although not as dramatically
 
I like the Moras. They are OK knives. They aren't customs or even high end production blades. At $10-$15 each they are hard to beat but they have gotten an almost legendary status that has more to do with popularity than performance. If cutting and carving are all you expect of your knife, you will be fine. If you want to turn it into a froe or axe, you might find yourself knife less in a few swings. When you see guys like Cody Lundeen baton a Mora, he is usually only doing shallow cuts. Burying the blade in a piece of wood is tough on any knife. Especially one under 1/8in thick. I have always though a Mora was best paired with a more dedicated chopper that best suits your environment. That way you have a dedicated chopper and a dedicated cutter.
As a FYI, if you do like the Moras, check out the Kellam and Hultafors brands. IMO they have better handle designs than the standard Moras.
 
I remember the saying, you get what you paid for.......
My Mora Companion, I got allot more in the knife than I paid for.
One heck of a deal for $12, a bargain of a life time.
 
Liam Ryan said:
There was a feller round these parts named boats, I believe. He was not a fan of moras and claimed he had broken two, once chipping some ice and one he stepped on by accident. I called him on it and he never said another word about it.
This was a long time ago so hopefully I didn't just throw out the wrong name there.
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Yeah i remember that guy but i think his name was something different. He said he was SAR and he was uncanny, i swear he telepathically and instantly knew every time someone even typed "mora" in a thread here. ZING! Like white on rice he'd be there saying how they suck and how he broke one once by looking at it too hard,lol. It was almost a mania for him.
 
sams said:
I remember the saying, you get what you paid for.......
My Mora Companion, I got allot more in the knife than I paid for.
One heck of a deal for $12, a bargain of a life time.
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Yup. Mora, Victorinox, the old USA Camillus, and Schrade are all incredible values. A whole lot of knife for very little money.
 
leghog said:
Yup. Mora, Victorinox, the old USA Camillus, and Schrade are all incredible values. A whole lot of knife for very little money.
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Don't forget Green River knives:) Or Old Hickory:)
 
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I broke my companion with batoning of 3.5in. pinewood. The tang broke around 1 inch deep in handle and a piece of plastic handle broke too.
 
They are thin, lightweight knives meant for cutting. If you break one, you're doing something wrong.

"Can" you baton with a Mora? Well sure... if you do it right you'll probably get away with it for years. If you do it wrong... you just threw away $10 or $20.
 
Thomas Linton said:
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Thank You Thomas, saved me a step.

Guess what people?

Busse knives break, Ontario knives break, KaBar's break, Esse breaks, pretty much everything that see's any actual usage stands a chance to break. And the design of Mora makes it inherantly more prone to breakage during actual hard use ie batoning and prying. (I and many other's call this physics) There is no way a small piece of weaker metal/weaker design will out perform a bigger and tougher piece of metal. I own Mora's, I've used Mora's, and I break Mora's. I also break other knives.

I will admit that the Mora will take quite a bit of abuse for what they are, but don't come on here acting like Mora's are freaking Superman and never EVER break:rolleyes:. That's just retarded.;)
 
james terrio said:
They are thin, lightweight knives meant for cutting. If you break one, you're doing something wrong.

"Can" you baton with a Mora? Well sure... if you do it right you'll probably get away with it for years. If you do it wrong... you just threw away $10 or $20.
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Great post! Thanks! :thumbup:
 
sideways said:
I'm going to have to agree with james terrio. You are doing it wrong. ;):D
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I guess Noss and Cliff were doing it wrong as well, I have not said how I have broken them or why, so you cannot assume what my intentions are/were or what my personal philosopy of use is. I don't believe in carrying something into the field that isn't as rugged as the terrian I traverse.
 
mountainmist said:
Thanks guys! I already know that they are tough butt I was wondering whether or not anyone had problems with them breaking, obviously not, 270 views and know one can show me a pic of a snapped mora...:D
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Ok here yea go.

"Here is where I encountered an utter fail. My Mora classic 2 did not withstand the pounding it recieved from the hickory baton. Say it ain't so Mora!:"

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From the 2012 ZS MBO contest.


http://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=93528&p=2104028&hilit=broken+mora#p2104028

So yea, it can happen.
 
I remember watching some video where a guy said that he'd never broken a Mora from use, but he'd had one bend back from being sharpened so much. Was he sharpening it on a belt sander? It should take a lifetime to get a knife that thin. But yeah I wouldn't baton any more than a little bit of kindling with a Mora. I have hatchets and machetes if I need to do serious chopping. Seeing how few people have actually broken Moras does make me wonder if its really worth it to buy a Bushcraft Mora over any other model considering the price.
 
I really like my mora clipper and all around, the 510 is my favorite though. For me it's not worth buying the fancy moras. I tried the triflex bushcraft the 2000 and the scout I think it's called. They're about the same as the inexpensive ones really.
 
ninjarabbi said:
I remember watching some video where a guy said that he'd never broken a Mora from use, but he'd had one bend back from being sharpened so much. Was he sharpening it on a belt sander? It should take a lifetime to get a knife that thin. But yeah I wouldn't baton any more than a little bit of kindling with a Mora. I have hatchets and machetes if I need to do serious chopping. Seeing how few people have actually broken Moras does make me wonder if its really worth it to buy a Bushcraft Mora over any other model considering the price.
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If you're talking about the above Mora they guy just got it. Also he doesn't have a belt sander near as I know. As for batoning I have done a bunch with multiple Mora knives. The Mora Robust is 1/8 so maybe go with that. Here I am batoning with one.

[video=youtube;BMeAju95Mdw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMeAju95Mdw[/video]

The Mora 711/746 also works just time.



Those are the same thickness as the Mora Bushcraft line.

Thin Mora stainless Clipper also works.




I say most of models can do just as good as the Bushcraft line.
 
Yeah I really like the allround too. I'm not sure but I think it might be slightly thinker than the clipper and I really like the thick rubber grip. Plus for some reason it seems to be one of the cheaper models too.

edit-No I was just talking about some random youtube video I saw a while ago.
 
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