Brother 1602 Knife Review

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Hackenslash said:
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Just for validation, here's a group of "keepers".
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OK friend, let me level with you here. I think the lockup is suspect on #3, #4, and #5. If you submit them to me I will photograph, document, and validate them as prime examples. This validation is sure to win you this thread, and at the cost of 3 Skylines, it's a steal! Nice collection!
 
unwisefool said:
The blade looks small in comparison to the handle.
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I'm lurking and being entertained but that, in my book, up to a point of course, is one sign of a highly controllable and useful cutting tool. Think scalpel, box knife, electrician's knife. Granted those are exaggerations. One more to the point . . . my last purchase . . . an authentic . . . from a reputable knife vendor . . . the Para 2 = largish handle compared to edge length (some say too long (not me I like the handle length)) .
 
Hackenslash said:
I don't like knives with fat round handles
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One of the things I liked about it. From a using it hard to cut stuff stand point.
I am highly suspect of inexpensive knives though some would say that is all I buy ($100 to $200 range). All I am saying is below that point things can get really questionable fast.
 
NJBillK said:
Next time just send a message to the OP. This thread has sunk and was resurrected by you for a question directed to him alone.
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If you would kindly provide a link to the said rule it would be greatly appreciated. I read the rules and didn't see it anywhere.
 
ToneGrail said:
If you would kindly provide a link to the said rule it would be greatly appreciated. I read the rules and didn't see it anywhere.
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http://www.bladeforums.com/help/exchange-rules/
In the bold section up top, the first entry, it says that these rules are site-wide, not only for the exchange.

Note in section 3, rule 4:
THREAD NECROMANCY IS HIGHLY DISCOURAGED. Do not bump threads that are older than 120 days.

It goes on to say that you should send the seller a message, but to prove that this isn't strictly for the exchange, you can't bump thread in the exchange. That function is turned off. So the rule above is the standing part.
 
NJBillK said:
http://www.bladeforums.com/help/exchange-rules/
In the bold section up top, the first entry, it says that these rules are site-wide, not only for the exchange.

Note in section 3, rule 4:
THREAD NECROMANCY IS HIGHLY DISCOURAGED. Do not bump threads that are older than 120 days.

It goes on to say that you should send the seller a message, but to prove that this isn't strictly for the exchange, you can't bump thread in the exchange. That function is turned off. So the rule above is the standing part.
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This thread was started on Jun 21, 2017. Being that today is July 19, 2017, this thread is not even a month old, which is well within the 120 day limit. Not seeing how you consider this a "necro" thread. Just sayin.
 
Frotier76 said:
ToneGrail,

Sorry for my late reply I haven't been on Bladeforums for a few days.I've bought 4 of them in total and I really haven't had any detent problems.I did get one where both of the pivot screws were on too tight so the ball bearings weren't showcasing their glossy deployment.But...easily fixed a little fine-tuning of the pivot screws.Now that possibly could be the answer to solving the detent problem for yours.
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Thanks Frotier. I actually have the pivot cranked down as tight as it will go. After watching some videos I figured out that the ball detent is actually too large for the hole in the blade. When the tang clears the ball detent before it locks open, the liner noticeably moves in the direction of the blade. When the knife is closed, it barely moves at all. Luckily, my brother in law owns a machine shop and I'm going to ask him to help me enlarge the detent hole.
 
ToneGrail said:
This thread was started on Jun 21, 2017. Being that today is July 19, 2017, this thread is not even a month old, which is well within the 120 day limit. Not seeing how you consider this a "necro" thread. Just sayin.
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It says that necroposting is discouraged, and beyond 120 to not do it at all.

Since this thread was sunk, and no longer active, to send the OP a question would better be suited to to a direct message, where as a hint, tip, or somehow aiding him (and potentially others) would be worthy of a bump.

If you do not see a difference between the two, then I don't know how else to help, if thinking on your own, nor the help of others didn't...
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To speak on your stated concern, even my sebenza's lockbar will move in after the detent drops off of the blade tang... It has to.
The detent, by design, sticks out of the lockbar and allows it to seat into the hole/divot in the blade. Enlarging the hole that the detent sits in can cause irreparable blade play, since this is what holds the blade closed and in place.
 
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Frotier76 said:
Sorry I can't praise them.Aside from the liner-lock up issue I encountered the scales flexed in my hand from not having steel liners...that can cause a liner lock to slip out.Really thin blade and bead blast finish on Sandvik? such a waste on a clean looking stainless that deserves a satin finish.I see $15-$20 on that USA made knife...not $40.The Skyline is more in the quality spectrum of the Bucklite Series or the old Schrade Lightweight Lockback Series.
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I just re-read this post and it makes no sense at all. You seem to not understand the market, design and function of the Kershaw Skyline. If you'd like it explained to you, feel free to start a thread and I'll be happy to chime in.
 
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Wow...

In on 3. I didn't know all about the spyderco stuff when I ordered mine. Oh well, too late now, and after about 2 months wait, it's finally here...
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For about 20 bucks, it was well worth the wait. Better fit and finish than I expected, but could flip a little smoother. Maybe it'll smooth out. I love that it looks like a pocket knife based on a custom Bowie(imo). Waves beautifully. Can't wait to put a mirror finish on this blade and polish the handles. The weight doesn't bother me. We'll see about the steel.
unwisefool said:
The blade looks small in comparison to the handle.
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It is.

As far as all the controversy, I could care less. I wanted this knife more than any other design and it just happens to be an original design at a great price from a Chinese company I knew nothing about. I've bought plenty of spyderco, have given their company plenty business and will continue to.

Oh, and whoever the hell Wonton is, great design!
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
As far as all the controversy, I could care less. I wanted this knife more than any other design and it just happens to be an original design at a great price from a Chinese company I knew nothing about. I've bought plenty of spyderco, have given their company plenty business and will continue to.

Oh, and whoever the hell Wonton is, great design!
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That is an interesting take on the whole clone/counterfeit/tribute subject. Wonton/Navy/Brother is a dedicated Spyderco knockoff maker, who has come out with an original design.

And since you have already given Spyderco plenty of money and will continue to do so, then buying from Wonton/Navy/Brother is OK, in your opinion.

o_O
 
Yyyyup. Since you are interested, I also feel that companies that take their product overseas are contributing to this as well. If you think about it, it seems the American companies all using China to make their knives gave China the infrastructure to eventually take intellectual property without recourse as well as to produce goods at a high quality for cheaper. If the rich guys can do it, why can't I as an individual? I saved money. So did spyderco. Actually, they MADE money. Has it ever occurred to you these matters may have people with different opinions than you?
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Yyyyup. Since you are interested, I also feel that companies that take their product overseas are contributing to this as well. If you think about it, it seems the American companies all using China to make their knives gave China the infrastructure to eventually take intellectual property without recourse as well as to produce goods at a high quality for cheaper. If the rich guys can do it, why can't I as an individual? I saved money. So did spyderco. Actually, they MADE money. Has it ever occurred to you these matters may have people with different opinions than you?
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There is yet another interesting take on the subject...."ultimately it's Spyderco's fault."
 
marcinek said:
There is yet another interesting take on the subject...."ultimately it's Spyderco's fault."
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I'm not saying it's spyderco fault. I'm saying it's the result of MANY knife companies outsourcing to save/make money that helped build the infrastructure to make knives in China the way they currently do.

You seem to be here just to argue. Quote me, but don't rephrase and twist my words. If you have an opinion, please explain it. You seem to simply be here to scold.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Yyyyup. Since you are interested, I also feel that companies that take their product overseas are contributing to this as well. If you think about it, it seems the American companies all using China to make their knives gave China the infrastructure to eventually take intellectual property without recourse as well as to produce goods at a high quality for cheaper. If the rich guys can do it, why can't I as an individual? I saved money. So did spyderco. Actually, they MADE money. Has it ever occurred to you these matters may have people with different opinions than you?
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That doesn't sound like you playing Devils Advocate just to get under Marcinec' skin at all.

The recourse would be you and the others that understand intelectual property but don't care enough to respect it, not buying them because you have...
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethics
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Rupestris said:
That doesn't sound like you playing Devils Advocate just to get under Marcinec' skin at all.

The recourse would be you and the others that understand intelectual property but don't care enough to respect it, not buying them because you have...
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/ethics
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Yes, I bought a knife two months ago and posted about it today, long after this thread died, to get under marcineks skin(sarcasm).

Your definition of ethics as an agreed upon set of rules, or whatever it said...That's the issue, there is no agreed upon set of rules here. China has theirs, USA has theirs. You have yours, I have mine.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Yyyyup. Since you are interested, I also feel that companies that take their product overseas are contributing to this as well. If you think about it, it seems the American companies all using China to make their knives gave China the infrastructure to eventually take intellectual property without recourse as well as to produce goods at a high quality for cheaper. If the rich guys can do it, why can't I as an individual? I saved money. So did spyderco. Actually, they MADE money. Has it ever occurred to you these matters may have people with different opinions than you?
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Nice wave feature. I guess they came up with that on their own....
 
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