Buck 110 auto opinions

GPyro said:
I don't believe Kershaw has the quality of heat treat that Buck does.
I used to like Kershaw knives, but I think they are lacking in the heat treat department.
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The Kershaw Launch series of autos are all made in the USA. The blade steel on all models is CPM154 and the heat treat is good. The USA made knives are different than what they have made overseas.
 
I have many Buck 110 conversion auto's but only one Buck Auto 110 which fires like an old lady kicks a ball. It is because it has a Torsion spring inside. The others have a flat spring.
 
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Yeah I think most modern autos use torsion springs.
Also, on the Kershaw thing. I have a Launch 6 and it is pretty nice. The steel is great actually, Kershaw and Zero Tolerance have good heat treatment in my experience over the years. I would still give Buck the edge (haha) on heat treatment though probably.
 
CVamberbonehead said:
Yeah I think most modern autos use torsion springs.
Also, on the Kershaw thing. I have a Launch 6 and it is pretty nice. The steel is great actually, Kershaw and Zero Tolerance have good heat treatment in my experience over the years. I would still give Buck the edge (haha) on heat treatment though probably.
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That's what I thought! The strongest of the strong thwackers do their thwacking courtesy of a coil spring. I remembering reading about how that tech worked so much better than the old leaf-style springs in vintage automatics. I had an original Benchmade Boguszewski Spike (non-serrated no less!) years ago that I disassembled due to concerns over possessing it. It thwacked like a mofo. I really, really wish I had not sold it!
 
Cool pictures everybody! :cool:
Sorry to disappoint, but I just found out that Winkler Knives has a 25% discount for veterans! So... I think my knife budget may be shot for now lol. Look for me on the exchange soon! 😄😁lol
 
Had a great conversation yesterday with Jeff Hubbard about this exact topic and why we chose a coil spring instead of a torsion spring. We have tried multiple different version of the torsion spring and they cannot pass our cycle testing in QC. Most of the aftermarket ones we see sent into warranty have broken springs.
 
Buck Knives Inc. said:
Had a great conversation yesterday with Jeff Hubbard about this exact topic and why we chose a coil spring instead of a torsion spring. We have tried multiple different version of the torsion spring and they cannot pass our cycle testing in QC. Most of the aftermarket ones we see sent into warranty have broken springs.
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If you guys ever decide to bring back the Duke, I would buy a couple. If you bring them back as autos, I would buy a dozen.

Here is something I have trouble understanding. I have a number of 1950s era autos with flat springs that still function well. A couple are one owner (me) American pocket knife style and a couple are Italian stilettos, and one is a German Hubertus. Yet I read frequently that coil springs routinely break even in high end knives.

Yet you report the coil springs are more reliable that leaf springs. 🤔 That is confusing.
 
Yes I have 2 Pro - Tech's that fire great. Just "NO SAFETY"S " The knives are beautiful. It does matter how the position of the bent legs are positioned, to enhance the firing power or weaken it. So the KWACK is adjustable by the spring position of the bent legs on torsion spring knives. Different position more or less deflection.
 
Buck Knives Inc. said:
Had a great conversation yesterday with Jeff Hubbard about this exact topic and why we chose a coil spring instead of a torsion spring. We have tried multiple different version of the torsion spring and they cannot pass our cycle testing in QC. Most of the aftermarket ones we see sent into warranty have broken springs.
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Well torsion springs are able to withstand many times of repeat performance. The spring most probably was designed wrong. Thinner wire more coils would fix the problem. A torsion spring is a coil spring, with leg on top and bottom that can be bent and trimmed to the right length. The spring machine determines the position. I was a tool and diemaker in a spring company for 28 years. So I know a little about them. The flat springs will return to the final position it was heat treated at and they deflect only so much, That is an easier way because the spring THROWS the blade, instead of completing the complete rotation of a torsion spring.
 
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Update: I did it. I finally did it. I got a s30v 110 auto elite. And its awesome! 👍😁😎
Ive been carrying it all day, and its one of the nicest knives Ive ever laid hands on honestly (and its a factory blemish!). I cut up my dinner with it and cut some paracord off a tarp just a bit ago, which it handled beautifully. Its like a big razor blade! Im a happy camper.
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CVamberbonehead said:
Update: I did it. I finally did it. I got a s30v 110 auto elite. And its awesome! 👍😁😎
Ive been carrying it all day, and its one of the nicest knives Ive ever laid hands on honestly (and its a factory blemish!). I cut up my dinner with it and cut some paracord off a tarp just a bit ago, which it handled beautifully. Its like a big razor blade! Im a happy camper.
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Congratulations! I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine. Of all the Buck Knives I own, my 110AE is my favorite. (Just don't tell the others 😆)
 
Update: I still have the knife, I carried it all day today actually. It has been with me on a move across the country and cut up many a moving box haha. Still just as great as the day I bought it, holds a killer edge for a long time and is super reliable. Easy to maintain, gorgeous, sharp and strong, it is a keeper. So are all of my other 110's for that matter, including my standard 50th anniversary model that I've been using for over a decade now! My Auto Elite is one of my favorite knives to carry and I do do carry it alot.
 
A 112 auto is my daily work knife. I often hold the button down when closing the knife and release it after the blade is in place, much the same as closing a pocket watch. I figure that might extend the life of the mechanism when I use the knife every day.
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I have owned a few 110 autos. Sold them off because the lack of serious thwack when opening bummed me out. They don't spring open with authority. But with that said, I miss having one so I just purchased a 110 auto elite and hope that this one is a keeper.

I may even search out the traditional 110 auto to have back in house as well.
 
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