Buck 110 Folding Hunter Pro - Loose Blade and Dent

I agree, blade centering and some wobble when it is closed is of no concern. As long as the tip of the blade is in the well and it stays closed while you have it stowed that’s all that matters. A lot of people don’t understand that the folding blade has to have some free play to pivot, otherwise if it were tight it would have friction and be difficult to operate.

I just saw a recent post where a person was complaining about a tight pivot. Danged if you do and danged if you don’t. I’d hate to be in the warranty department and have that to deal with.
 
MT_Pokt said:
Please educate me. Provide an example of a similarly manufactured folding knife where the blade is centered in whatever consistency you deem appropriate.

Here's what I would like to see in your example:
1) A design that's been used without significant change for more than 50 years.
2) A model that has been counted in the millions sold.
3) A model that has a simple peened pivot.
4) A model that costs less than $100.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, though it may appear that way. I'm just trying to understand why it's critical that the blade of a folding knife is in some arbitrary position while the blade is stowed. Would you complain if a fixed blade knife wasn't centered in the sheath? A blade in its stowed position has absolutely zero impact on the functionality of the knife whether it's for cutting or viewing.

"Some collectors" appreciate the heritage first, and can look past implied flaws.

For example; some collector shelled out more than $1,200 for this 110 with a blade that's not centered.
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Let’s not pigeon hole me too bad on the requirements here but just a quick one would be the first Spyderco knives, Delica to pick just one (1990). Simple lockback design with 2 scales held by a peened over pivot and pins.

They’ve sold millions. Many and many of them with no build inconsistencies like off center blades, gaps all along the backsprings etc, I had several in the early 2000’s that were great examples.

GEC knives are immensely popular right now as another example. They’re literally building new knives on the ancient equipment out of the old Schrade factories and they have found a way to get blades pretty well centered across every old ass pattern they’ve made.

I appreciate the heritage as much as the next as I have a pretty varied collection of old and new. It’s great that Buck is still making and selling their iconic style knives, I don’t think it’s wrong to expect a little advancement in that area of their fit and finish, sheesh, they’ve had 50+ years to perfect it in knives that haven’t changed much as you pointed out. Does it matter to me much? Not really on the Bucks since that’s what’s expected, but I won’t pay the $360 for it.

I was pointing out what matters to other collectors since you asked about why, it’s talked about all the time in fit/finish discussions so it’s obviously important to some.
 
Since the opinions are really starting to come out, let the debate begin....

At what does a product warrant repair or replacement? If you purchased a new car, would you be just fine with some tire wobble? Or unusual engine knocking? Or body panels misaligned?

Yes, it's a $60 some odd dollar knife ($150.00 in Canada before the clearance pricing), but when can or do you say "I'm not happy with the product?"
 
Well for instance, I’ve heard a lot of collectors talk about how a well made and crafted knife should have half stops to be in that class. As though that somehow defines a well made knife to compare all others to. I personally hate half stops and find them to be totally unnecessary and dangerous. My question is what and how does half stops effect and improve performance or improve safety? I find half stops to be the opposite.
Just as the blade centering and wobble which is not comparable to a wheel on a vehicle by the way. I just think it gets silly to a point when the price point is far from the comparable models in other brands. I could complain that GEC can’t make a stainless model or a good flipper knife but that’s not the market they are aiming to please. Just look at the prices they bring now and if you could actually get one and gec doesn’t even come close to the production numbers that Buck turns out daily. I don’t know about spyderco but I’ve never cared for their humpback blades and big hole.
 
MT_Pokt said:
If it weren't for this forum, I wouldn't have known blade centering on a folder was a critical issue. :rolleyes:

What's next, nail nick too deep?
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eveled said:
I agree. It never crossed my mind. As long as it closes without hitting the handle and it’s straight when open. Its good to me.
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I'm waiting for someone to complain that their new Buck 110 won't "drop shut," which is point of conversation on too many knife reviews over the last few years. I don't know when it became desirable, much less necessary, for a knife to "drop shut," but it still baffles me why people care.
 
I think that in a scenario where every knife is expected to be "perfect", they couldn't be expected to be sold at Buck's price points.... especially considering they are made in the USA.

I have hundreds of Buck knives, and honestly do not have a single one that I am unhappy with the way it was made.

I'm sure they are out there. That's to be expected.

There are lots of OCD folks out there. That's some of the problem.

And I'm sure there has been a time where someone finally gets a Buck, not having been able to afford one, previously owning cheap gas station knives....
They get their Buck, and expect levels of perfection that simply doesn't make sense. ie, all the complaints that seem to come from "newbies". We should do better than offend them.

Actually, I think folks here handle that really well.
 
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Jeff of the North said:
Since the opinions are really starting to come out, let the debate begin....

At what does a product warrant repair or replacement? If you purchased a new car, would you be just fine with some tire wobble? Or unusual engine knocking? Or body panels misaligned?

Yes, it's a $60 some odd dollar knife ($150.00 in Canada before the clearance pricing), but when can or do you say "I'm not happy with the product?"
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If what you perceive as a flaw is within their engineering specs. Then you should not expect them to conform to your tighter tolerances.

They decide what the tolerances are and price accordingly. If you aren’t happy at that level then you aren’t their target customer.

Not trying to give anyone a hard time. Just pointing out that perfection fit and finish cost money.
 
Does one expect a different fit and finish on a knife according to the price? Some may expect that a knife that sells for well over a hundred dollars and has words like Pro or Legacy or Limited Edition or Custom Shop would have a little better fit and finish. Are people wrong for thinking this way? Just asking for a friend. :rolleyes:
 
I misunderstood the knife in question. Retracted comments.
 
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I can understand when it’s the limited edition models and other collectibles that are priced accordingly and expecting them to be more refined in all aspects. I was watching the Shot show video of C J where he was talking about collectibles and I was thinking they should be much nicer not only in materials but in fit and finish and craftsmanship. So yes that is where we should expect the nicer products. But for regular production models I just want them to be functional and performance able. If they aren’t perfect in fit and finish or a little off center as long as it does what I want to do it doesn’t bother me.
 
Lesknife said:
I can understand when it’s the limited edition models and other collectibles that are priced accordingly and expecting them to be more refined in all aspects. I was watching the Shot show video of C J where he was talking about collectibles and I was thinking they should be much nicer not only in materials but in fit and finish and craftsmanship. So yes that is where we should expect the nicer products. But for regular production models I just want them to be functional and performance able. If they aren’t perfect in fit and finish or a little off center as long as it does what I want to do it doesn’t bother me.
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Good point.
 
wackafew said:
I don't believe the OP was talking about a $35-60 knife. He was talking about a 110 Pro, about $140 plus shipping. I think we are talking about the same price point.
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My bad. I misunderstood the knife in question. Retracted previous comments. Last year's price on the 110 Pro was $99.99 MAP.

I'm out too.
 
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its a mixed bag. I dont mind some of the "flaws" myself, but others do. its their money and they can expect good results when we have seen Buck make them that way. it would be one thing if all had the same issues, but they dont.

for the op hes had 3, hes been unhappy with. dealing with the dealer again, likely isn't going to get results he wants. they had 3 tries already. sending to Jeff's attention at Buck should yield better results. J J Hubbard
 
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Not that it makes a lot of difference, I think I misquoted the price. I think they are now about $132.00. Don't get me wrong, I really like my Buck knives that I have and I think Buck is a good company and should take care of most things under warranty. I understand every now and then a lemon is bound to fall out of the door.
 
Lesknife said:
Well for instance, I’ve heard a lot of collectors talk about how a well made and crafted knife should have half stops to be in that class. As though that somehow defines a well made knife to compare all others to. I personally hate half stops and find them to be totally unnecessary and dangerous. My question is what and how does half stops effect and improve performance or improve safety? I find half stops to be the opposite.
Just as the blade centering and wobble which is not comparable to a wheel on a vehicle by the way. I just think it gets silly to a point when the price point is far from the comparable models in other brands. I could complain that GEC can’t make a stainless model or a good flipper knife but that’s not the market they are aiming to please. Just look at the prices they bring now and if you could actually get one and gec doesn’t even come close to the production numbers that Buck turns out daily. I don’t know about spyderco but I’ve never cared for their humpback blades and big hole.
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I used my examples not necessarily to compare them to a knife but because I actually received a new vehicle with those issues. It made for a very interesting conversation with the dealership.
 
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