Buck 110 poor finish

Jb475 here is one ive been working on. The wood is hickory. It was on a old splitting maul of my grandpas. I busted it and seen the beautiful grain. I had to make handles out of it. See the worm hole i filled in? Thats my favorite spot! I also done the engraving, i need to seal the wood and polish it up and it will be done!

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its fine if you dont want to, but posting pictures would be nice, just to see what you are talking about...
 
I've had some issues with buck knives,quality is not as good as it used to be,but take comfort in the fact that they will do everything possible to help you with a problem..their warranty is the best in the business.i guess every company has made some changes in business nowadays..otherwise it would be made in china I bet.
 
If many of the Buck owners choose to own the older Bucks compared to the Buck production of today, that tells you something about the quality they are putting out today. It might still be made in the US, but it doesn't mean much if the quality isn't what it used to be.
 
Not sure where all the "lack of quality" sentiment is coming from or what it's based on? I've got a couple of 110's, NIB from the early 1980's with blade play and one that was purchased 2-3 years ago with the same amount of blade play. Both appear to be of great quality though different materials, they just have some blade play. I guess that must mean Buck QC was slipping 30 years ago too.

Now as far as collectors and older Buck models there are any number of reasons for that. Personally I like the 100 series knives with the bone and fiber washers and pinned pommels more than todays 100's. Has nothing to do with quality, just preference. If you want to collect as many variations of a particular model as possible I guess you'll have substantially more older models than newer. Does that mean the new ones are poorly made? On the surface I guess someone might get that impression. I believe that what it boils down to is that people form opinions as much on what they want to believe as what the facts present. I know for a fact that Buck and every other maker of every possible product made makes mistakes on occasion. I also know for a fact that I don't have enough data to make a blanket statement about any of the those manufactures regarding overall quality or lack thereof.
 
I kind of doubt many have bought more 2014 Buck 110's than I have this year.
Closing in on 80 as of today.
I have one that I didn't care for the finish on much. The pins were set too deep on a $200.00 knife.
I plan on sending that back to get it fixed sometime next year.

I definitely wouldn't say the quality of fit and finish at Buck is lacking…in fact I say it is quite good.
Buck has made improvements to the 110 since 1964.
I think today's knives have a much better build than the early ones.
I just liked the materials used back then better and I liked the square frames better. Personal preference.
I hear no complaints about the Dymondwood delaminating. I hear no complaints about the Bos ht 420HC.

This whole thread got started because someone bought a Buck 110 at a gun store and decided they didn't like the "color" of the wood.
The OP didn't even have the courtesy to post pictures…although he said he would.

Done with rant. :)
 
Stumps ,I dropped a 420 hc 110 and the blade broke in two,it looks like white metal..I use an old 2dot to show some folks what a quality knife is,it's pounded through 5 nails,with merely a couple nicks in the blade.text me at 9027404595 and ill show u the pics.420 is not very strong in my opinion.
 
RAZORBLADES said:
Stumps ,I dropped a 420 hc 110 and the blade broke in two,it looks like white metal..I use an old 2dot to show some folks what a quality knife is,it's pounded through 5 nails,with merely a couple nicks in the blade.text me at 9027404595 and ill show u the pics.420 is not very strong in my opinion.
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White metal?
I thought 420 HC was a good metal.
If you can, post the pics on here.
 
Maybe it was good at one time,I've had several new ones that need sharpening more often and steel seems very brittle.
 
Badhammer said:
Not sure where all the "lack of quality" sentiment is coming from or what it's based on?
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For me, it was my experience.

I'm not a collector. I only have a few knives at any one time.

I've purchased 3 Buck lockbacks in the past 5 years. 2 started out tight but loosened up with use, both to the point I no longer trusted them. I sent them to Joe Houser to analyze and if you have contact to him, you might ask what they found. I would be interested to hear. They were both Bucklite Max folders. The other knife was a Walmart "Spitfire" (forget the model), which was awfully loose fresh out of the blister pack. That was a gift and never got returned. Over the years, I've concluded that all lockbacks from all makers I've tried have this propensity to some degree. It's the nature of the design. My older Bucks don't have these problems but I don't push them too hard.
 
RAZORBLADES said:
Stumps ,I dropped a 420 hc 110 and the blade broke in two,it looks like white metal..I use an old 2dot to show some folks what a quality knife is,it's pounded through 5 nails,with merely a couple nicks in the blade.text me at 9027404595 and ill show u the pics.420 is not very strong in my opinion.
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You dropped a Buck110, it broke, and you're surprised? Really this thread started as garbage, and should be locked already.
 
cards94 said:
We've yet to see any pictures on this.
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Personally, I would take RAZORBLADES on his word on this one, instead of insinuating that he's lying unless he can back up his claim with pictures.

@RAZORBLADES: IMO, 420HC is just a different animal than 440C. I enjoy them both but see them as being better for different things. For long periods of cutting rope and the like, I think most folks find 440C better as it's more toothy. I find that Bucks 420HC to be like good carbon steel or like Sandvik 12C27. They don't hold an edge as long as 440C but they sharpen more easily on older stones and take a very fine edge good for wood working. The breakages you've seen is odd. In general, I find 420HC and 12C27 to be pretty tough, prone to denting and edge folding but not chipping, again, much like 1095.
 
Personally, I would take RAZORBLADES on his word on this one, instead of insinuating that he's lying unless he can back up his claim with pictures.
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I'm not in any way saying he's lying. I'd expect a blade to break if it's dropped right. I don't need pictures to believe him. I do however think it's realistic to believe that this is not a reason to continue this thread that started buy a random drive by posting about poor fit and finish on a new Buck 110.
 
Yo,
Threads get locked for wrong doing. As I read the whole thread thru, there were a couple of thin ice times but generally everyone just expressed their opinions, whether they made sense or not. That give and take can happen as long as it is done without "cussin' and name callin' ". If you tire of a thread quit posting and reading it and let it die. As you can easily see at the moment 347 people have read this thread.

My opinion ......this type of thread, where someone makes a complaint, who is a newcomer to BladeForums, who does not show a photo of the problem should always be looked at as an attempt to stir the pot up. You can ask them to show photos, but for gosh sakes leave it alone after that. Defending Buck, defending your knife buying history or joining in with other complaints just sets the original poster into giggles of "look what I got started". State you opinion and move on.

Anyone who hangs around here will hear stories of bad or ugly knives. The Buck factory is run and operated by humans and does not sit on white clouds in the sky. You search at flea markets, knife shows, garage sales and you will find a Buck knive of some model that is not quite right. If someone buys a first Buck knife from a online store, giant store, fire sale in a blister pack and you open it up and it is not quite right, it tells me you need to change the way you buy the next one. You want to make a point with Buck to inspect their knives closer, then don't buy their bad knives, look them over and let the store keep them. We can't change Buck easily, but we can show each other how to become better knife consumer buyers. That is a primary goal of this forum, wouldn't you agree.

I don't expect my Buck knife to be used to fight off a grizzly bear or conquer invaders from a distant galaxy, there just knives. Many are well made and many of us like to tell and to SHOW those knives to the others on this forum. Lets keep doing that and not get sucked in to emotional unnecessary defense, by posters that act outside our normal forum methods.

Whew, I feel better. Its fall, everyone go outside, and it was a great photo pinnah. 300Bucks
 
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