Buck 110 poor finish

gsea,

Last week it was Ethan Pond, above Crawford Notch. Over 25 years with my gal, btw. :thumbup: I've owned my Buck 110 longer though!

300Bucks, the yellow "leaves" of the larch on the right are for you.


Ethan Pond by Pinnah, on Flickr
 
Buck still makes a decent knife,but no where near the quality of their el cajon plant...but I wonder if schrade had made a few better decisions if they'd be in business today ..instead of closing the doors.
 
I haven't read the entire thread, but as mentioned, any company will have knives that go out the door with issues. As long as it is a rarity and not the norm, it can be over looked.
That said, Buck is not the only company that has complaints of quality that has deteriorated. There are production knives coming out of companies that cost substantially more than most Bucks, that still have issues.

You have to remember that most people that buy knives, don't spend all their free time on forums, and many will never notice, or care about the issues we complain about. So, in the grand scheme of things, they probably look at it as part of the overall business equation


buckman110 said:
I got 13 stitches due to a new 110 lock failure.
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This always baffles me.

RAZORBLADES said:
Buck still makes a decent knife,but no where near the quality of their el cajon plant...but I wonder if schrade had made a few better decisions if they'd be in business today ..instead of closing the doors.
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Possibly. Obviously there is still a market for quality U.S made Traditional style knives, because Case is thriving and expanding, and the newcomer GEC is going gang busters...
Schrades mistake was bringing in an outsider that was going to change the world, and reinvent the wheel
 
To the OP, since I don't think anyone addressed it yet, the black gunk inside your knife was almost certainly left over polishing or buffing compound, and is nothing to be concerned over. Just wash it out with soap and water and dry the knife thoroughly. Before I had an air compressor (back when I was a financially-strapped college student ; /), I would just blow the water out with lung power (It works okay but might cause some light-headed-ness lol). The presence of the compound shows they actually polished the knife. I've seen some of this with Buck knives, but I would have to say Case knives I bought in the past were the most gunked-up with compound I've ever seen.

To everyone else, regarding the OP's complaint about being broke because he's paying his way through college: I don't think he was implying that anyone here didn't pay their way, he was just saying many people his age that he knows have their way paid by their parents. I only bring this up because a few acted like the OP was insulting them IMO.

I too would like to see stronger springs on the newer 300 series knives. The last ones I bought were 4-5 years ago, and though the knives work just fine, I would describe the springs as being "tepid" at best.

I also have to agree that the fit and finish on Buck 110 knives in general is not as good as it used to be decades ago. I'm basing this on the newer ones I own versus the older ones. However, I have yet to own a Buck knife with any problems that affect function, or any that I've had to return, and I think Bucks are still great value for the price.
 
To me were going in circles here, alot of issues cant be proven by a picture. And some people are more particular than others. Nevertheless, i do believe the quality isnt there like it used to be way back when. When people are used to awesome qualities that buck produced and they get something like the 124 that fellow posted where the blade was profusely ground down, thats a huge dissatisfaction. Also someone was posting something about other companies qualities were slipping also, that is true, but doesnt need to be used as a justification for the knives we talk about here. Imo its impossible to compare the old to the new and say its the same quality.
 
Scale back on the number of model knives offered which gives more time to be spent on the meat and potatoes and this makes for a happier consumer.
 
buckman110 said:
I got 13 stitches due to a new 110 lock failure.
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ok what happened ?
what were you trying to do and what does the lock look like?
pictures please!!
the MAIN reason for failure of the lock to engage is ....
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ta da ....
POCKET LINT!!!!
it gets in the notch of the blade the lock bar engages and keeps the lock bar from seating fully
now there are a few other reasons a lock may fail
but again pictures pictures and incase any one wants to know
pictures tell what words cant ... and explain a lot ...
 
110 Dave said:
ok what happened ?
what were you trying to do and what does the lock look like?
pictures please!!
the MAIN reason for failure of the lock to engage is ....
.
.
.
.
ta da ....
POCKET LINT!!!!
it gets in the notch of the blade the lock bar engages and keeps the lock bar from seating fully
now there are a few other reasons a lock may fail
but again pictures pictures and incase any one wants to know
pictures tell what words cant ... and explain a lot ...
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He later on said it was actually a detente issue, and the blade wasn't fully closed when he slid it back into its sheath.....

SLICE!!!!! :eek:
 
buckman110 said:
The lock was badly mis shaped causing it to stay open. I guess lock failure was a bad choice to say for that particular situation.
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wow mis shaped .. ... I have seen knives were the tip did not go all the way in to the handle ...
and then I have seen some that always had a dull spot from hitting the back of the handle
in the case of a brand new one not closing .. grit ?
while I have had a lock fail on me once years ago it was due to my using it in a manner buck would not approve of
ya I can see if one is care less or not thinking you can slice open a lot of skin jest from the sharp tip...
life .. no telling ... don't worry of the other thread ... ya answered it here

but still it would be nice to see the lock ....
 
buckman110 said:
To me were going in circles here, alot of issues cant be proven by a picture. And some people are more particular than others. Nevertheless, i do believe the quality isnt there like it used to be way back when. When people are used to awesome qualities that buck produced and they get something like the 124 that fellow posted where the blade was profusely ground down, thats a huge dissatisfaction. Also someone was posting something about other companies qualities were slipping also, that is true, but doesnt need to be used as a justification for the knives we talk about here. Imo its impossible to compare the old to the new and say its the same quality.
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yes some going in circles happens in all threads ... and I can accept that the lock might not have been shaped right ...
and yes many times a picture don't explain things...
don't take it personal ... many like me jest ...
well I have had a lot of one tens and I guess I have seen most of what can go wrong with them ...
I will say that here if you make a flat statement of some thing wrong ... you might be called on to back it up
tho most times I wont back up my own statements ! lol
jest call me ... yowser I almost for got that 300 would get on my behind fer saying some things I might would normally say
 
pinnah said:
gsea,

Last week it was Ethan Pond, above Crawford Notch. Over 25 years with my gal, btw. :thumbup: I've owned my Buck 110 longer though!

300Bucks, the yellow "leaves" of the larch on the right are for you.


Ethan Pond by Pinnah, on Flickr
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Down in Keene, can't beat the scenery this time of year.
 
There is not a product made that will please everyone, every time regardless of what it is or who it's made by. That is a fact.

This entire thread as with several others of late was started by someone with no photos of the supposed transgression that Buck forced upon them and yet we have so many members jumping on Buck for making inferior products, claiming failing quality, even suggesting how they can be more successful in their business model. WOW! What happened to the fun in the hobby?
 
Please send it to me. I will put real Maccassar Ebony scales on it and pay the shipping both ways.

From what I can figure, you have colour mismatched scales. To keep an excellent knife affordable, Buck may not have someone on the assembly line sorting scales to match the color variances (which also occur in natural materials) in the Maccassar Ebony Obeecheewood. If you bought a standard. 110, I'm guessing you bought it to use, and not to be pretty to look at. I'll make it look even better for you no charge so you can enjoy it that little bit more.
Let's not have such a lengthy court case with no evidence, as we all make mistakes now and then, and sometimes you get away with a speeding ticket.
 
JAGcustomknives said:
Please send it to me. I will put real Maccassar Ebony scales on it and pay the shipping both ways.

From what I can figure, you have colour mismatched scales. To keep an excellent knife affordable, Buck may not have someone on the assembly line sorting scales to match the color variances (which also occur in natural materials) in the Maccassar Ebony Obeecheewood. If you bought a standard. 110, I'm guessing you bought it to use, and not to be pretty to look at. I'll make it look even better for you no charge so you can enjoy it that little bit more.
Let's not have such a lengthy court case with no evidence, as we all make mistakes now and then, and sometimes you get away with a speeding ticket.
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A very generous offer by you JAG. :thumbup:
 
JAGcustomknives said:
Please send it to me. I will put real Maccassar Ebony scales on it and pay the shipping both ways.

From what I can figure, you have colour mismatched scales. To keep an excellent knife affordable, Buck may not have someone on the assembly line sorting scales to match the color variances (which also occur in natural materials) in the Maccassar Ebony Obeecheewood. If you bought a standard. 110, I'm guessing you bought it to use, and not to be pretty to look at. I'll make it look even better for you no charge so you can enjoy it that little bit more.
Let's not have such a lengthy court case with no evidence, as we all make mistakes now and then, and sometimes you get away with a speeding ticket.
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You Sir, are a Prince among Men!
 
buckman110 said:
I do scales alot, i just dont have a variety of materials to choose from.
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Well then post some photo's of those knives you have done scales on. I'd love to see them and I'm sure everyone here would also!
jb4570
 
I like the look of this knife. The great thing about wood is that no two pieces are alike, this adds character to the knife. After being about half way through this thread I am really considering going out and getting a 110 for myself.

DesertChris said:
This post is to illustrate the usefulness of photos and videos ;)
(And because I am fond of posting photos :D )

Here is my 2013 user 110 that was purchased online.
Scales do not match at all, but I like both sides quite a lot.
It is almost like 2 knives in one :)

This side is what I assume people think is the classic look.



This side is very different, and I like it better :)



The "snap" is called "detente" isn't it?
Just to show that all late model 110's do not have weak detente, here is mine :)

[video=youtube_share;urro56mLIfs]http://youtu.be/urro56mLIfs[/video]
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