Buck 119 in full Magnacut

Does “full Magnacut” mean there were partial Magnacut knives made?

I guess I’m slow, but I don’t see why Magnacut is so trendy. It’s tough and corrosion resistant, but only good in edge retention.
 
shinyedges said:
Wow. Insightful.

Thanks for telling me what I need. Though I never said I needed the user to be 1 in 100,00. I said the knife WASN'T 1 in 100,000. They are buying regular knives and flipping them.

Also, scalpers and flippers can be identified by their repeating pattern of buying up items and re-selling them for profit.

You like getting scalped, good for you.
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its basic economics if a knife is selling for more than it’s worth then it means demand which means a healthy market for that product . . . dont u want this hobbie to have a healthy market ? ? ?
 
Carl Kills Kittens said:
is that ur response when u know ur wrong ?
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This is getting a bit toxic all around, I feel like you've missed the point. Thing is, he's not wrong.

Rarity or demand in and of itself does drive prices up, you are correct. Issue is those who buy them all up and resell at obscene prices for no other reason than to flip it for a buck.

For those who want to use them, how does that help the hobby? It just makes it more cost prohibitive.
 
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Insulting or Rude behavior
MarkN86 said:
This is getting a bit toxic all around, I feel like you've missed the point. Thing is, he's not wrong.

Rarity or demand in and of itself does drive prices up, you are correct. Issue is those who buy them all up and resell at obscene prices for no other reason than to flip it for a buck.

For those who want to use them, how does that help the hobby? It just makes it more cost prohibitive.
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people buy stocks and sell them for profit all the time its just the way the world works . . . were u guys born yesterday and is this new to you ? ? ? if u sold your house 25 years after you bought it would you sell it for the same price it sold for ? ? ?

stupid . . .
 
I’m going to regret this and I should have just passed by but I couldn’t let it pass. Let’s keep it civil, don't let your big boy undies get in a bunch, (maybe buy some of those Duluth undergarments. ;) ) There is nothing wrong with wanting to make a little bit of money from a sale, but most of us in this hobby are not selling to make a large profit, no chance of that, just selling and revising our collections to raise funds and make room for new stuff. YET there’s an argument against those people who only buy up a supply to sell that for profit and add nothing to the hobby, they have no skin in the game so to speak. That can raise prices, I feel like that every time I see GEC up for sale. If I feel the price is too much, I just pass by and think too rich for me, but that can be the supply and demand, but part of that is hoarding to make a profit. Luckily, I can make the choice to pass it by. To be fare, I don‘t know the original seller, so I have to give him the benefit of being A good part of this hobby according to others’ testimonies, but there are Flea bay junkies who cast out a line hoping for for a bite. We also see it in the exchange, people come in quick and then we don’t hear from them again.
 
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I see "official" GEC dealers upping the price now. In response to flippers I guess, but still it pushes the prices up to buyers. And those are normal runs not one offs.
 
BuckShack said:
I see "official" GEC dealers upping the price now. In response to flippers I guess, but still it pushes the prices up to buyers. And those are normal runs not one offs.
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I guess some of that can be because of the economy, no doubt, but I still worry if I am dealing with a used car salesman or snake oil salesman that are out there. I guess the old adage still applies ( thanks to my parents still teaching some Biblical principles ) that you will know them by the fruits they produce. ;)
 
I am also very much against scalpers. It started with the ticket agencies. Why should they make more than the artist performing?

Now it is effecting every hobby. My sons cant even get baseball cards at Walmart anymore. Adults are buying up entire cases. It’s sick.

The person this thread is about is not usually that way. He lives near Buck, would buy knives that were not available to us. Take orders stand in line for hours at the big tent sales. Even getting special knives made for some of us. Did he make a little? Of course he did.

He has helped many of us with our collections. He is a stand up guy. His prices to me have always been fair.

He has slowed down since Joe Houser retired.

I agree the knife in the OP has me scratching my head. Its price doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Don’t forget if you deal through ebay he has fees to pay and he also deserves to make some money.

Again with all the absolute egregious examples of scalpers out there.

To target him is ridiculous. IMHO.
 
celticrogues said:
Seems like they are just testing the waters at the moment, probably dialing in heat treat. Probably will become a staple in another year or so.
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I doubt it. Buck has avoided moving away from 420HC for regular production of their flagships for many years. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Helps with the pricing, I guess, among others.

And, BTW, 420HC is tougher than Magnacut.
 
ferider said:
I doubt it. Buck has avoided moving away from 420HC for regular production of their flagships for many years. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Helps with the pricing, I guess, among others.

And, BTW, 420HC is tougher than Magnacut.
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I agree that Buck will probably keep 420HC in production for a long time, but they have used other steels in "premium" offerings for many years, namely S35VN or S30V. It's these steels that I'd expect will eventually get replaced in favor of Magnacut.
 
Buck should continue to use 420HC even if newer and better comes along, most of the knife buying public doesn't know one steel from another, they just know it's a decent knife for a good price. If Buck can continue to do good work with 420HC, it's easy on their tooling, and costs can be kept low, why not keep selling it? There's more money in catering to the mass market than a small number of enthusiasts.
 
Smaug said:
Does “full Magnacut” mean there were partial Magnacut knives made?

I guess I’m slow, but I don’t see why Magnacut is so trendy. It’s tough and corrosion resistant, but only good in edge retention.
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I really like Magnacut. It certainly isn’t leaps and bounds better in any category, but it’s very good in all. I lean more to tougher stainless steels like Nitro V, so to have an option that is highly corrosion resistant, rough, and holds a good edge is perfect for me. I buy a ton of Magnacut knives now.
 
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