Buck 500 Duke question

Plumberdv said:
All I'm sayin' and what I meant is that if Jeff hadn't come up with the new info, no one would have doubted that it was in fact NS. The catalog can be changed next time so there's really no harm done like someone made it out to be. In the end, still no big deal. It even seems that from Jeff's statement that he wasn't absolutely positive since he was going to check with the supplier to verify it.
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All good points Plumberdv. But as collectors, some of us can get hung up on seemingly minuscule details that would escape the attention of the usual customer base.
 
I didn't mean that there was harm done Dave, but incompetence aggrevates the heck out of me. Mistakes happen and that's fine, but a mistake like that should've never happened.
The other thread about the bolsters wouldn't have existed had the print been correct. I can just see the thread 10yrs from now about collectors thinking they had a special model 2013 cause it was the only one with ns bolsters according to an old catalog someone dug up......

The SS won't likely do what your 532 bolsters did so it does make a difference, and as just mentioned ns dings and scratches worse.
 
I think Buck as a company would want to have their published specifications as accurate as possible.

Plumb - That is some significant corrosion on those 532's! Does something like Simichrome or Flitz remove it?

For some people, the difference between NS and stainless steel is VERY significant.
Engraving NS has some challenges as does the 300 series steels. There is also a significant difference between cast and sintered metals like the brass frames used on 110 and 112 models.

In these situations, it is important that the information provided can be relied upon.

Peter
 
So to be clear for myself, is the new/current 500's made of NS bolsters or Stainless Steel? Not asking about older ones just the new ones please.
 
RickJ said:
So to be clear for myself, is the new/current 500's made of NS bolsters or Stainless Steel? Not asking about older ones just the new ones please.
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I know I'll get slammed for this, but in my eyes, it's still up in the air until Jeff comes back and verfies (as he said he's doing) that the current ones are SS. He's said that the 500 never transitioned to NS when the rest of the series did but that may simply be because it was out of production when the transition took place.

All due respects to Mr. Hubbard (and thanking him very much for his input here), but he's made a mistake or two here in the past and had to come back and correct them. I would have to wonder why, after nine years of being out of normal production, they would bring the 500 back and not switch it over to the newer method of construction using NS (sintered or powdered metal technology.):confused:
 
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peterinct said:
I think Buck as a company would want to have their published specifications as accurate as possible.

Plumb - That is some significant corrosion on those 532's! Does something like Simichrome or Flitz remove it?

For some people, the difference between NS and stainless steel is VERY significant.
Engraving NS has some challenges as does the 300 series steels. There is also a significant difference between cast and sintered metals like the brass frames used on 110 and 112 models.

In these situations, it is important that the information provided can be relied upon.

Peter
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I tried Flitz, Mother's and Brasso and none would touch it. Joe Houser had me send all of them in and they came back looking near new. I have no idea what they used or how they did it.
 
Plumberdv said:
I tried Flitz, Mother's and Brasso and none would touch it. Joe Houser had me send all of them in and they came back looking near new. I have no idea what they used or how they did it.
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More than likely, they used a motorized buffer with compound.

Do you use anything such as Renaissance Wax on them in storage?

Peter
 
I don't usually resurrect an old thread, but sometimes (rarely as I get older) a light comes on and I remember a statement that was made and that opens up a question in my mind.

Question: Is Buck out sourcing the frames for some of their knives? The statement in red (below) makes me wonder. Why, if they are done in house, would Jeff have to call the "supplier" to verify what they were made of?

"FYI,
The side are made of 316 SS not nickel silver. This model did not transition to Nickel silver like the others did when we redesigned the line. The 501, 503 and 505 are nickel silver, the model 500 is 316. It looks like we are publishing the wrong specs. I have a call into the supplier to verify they are using stainless. Once I verify, I'll send a note to our marketing dept to correct future publications.

Jeff"
 
He's speaking of the frame, that maybe the one part not made at Buck. I've since learned that the Duke was not made as a normal customer offering from 2003-2013. But it was never totally discontinued, it was still made even during those years. DM
 
David Martin said:
He's speaking of the frame, that maybe the one part not made at Buck. I've since learned that the Duke was not made as a normal customer offering from 2003-2013. But it was never totally discontinued, it was still made even during those years. DM
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That's my question. I knew they were not normal run, catalog knives for almost 10 years but were produced as LE's, etc.
 
Now, another question came to mind (I know, I know).

Can 316 stainless be formed using the "sintered or powdered metal technology" as is done with the brass and NS frames? If so, perhaps Jeff had to check to see what kind of powder was being used.
 
Just found the answer to my own question about sintered SS (the answer is yes, it is done) . Now, we just wait to see which Buck uses.
 
Dave, I've been in town. You been eating brain food, as your really thinking about this one. Yes, your correct the sintered method can be done with stainless and it's tolerances are very close. Companies specialize in this and Buck does not have to do it in house. Hence, Mr. Hubbard's comment. DM
 
David Martin said:
Dave, I've been in town. You been eating brain food, as your really thinking about this one. Yes, your correct the sintered method can be done with stainless and it's tolerances are very close. Companies specialize in this and Buck does not have to do it in house. Hence, Mr. Hubbard's comment. DM
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I've guess I've about used up the brain food, I can feel the brain fade beginning to set in again. That will be the end of this for now (it's nap time). I just hope that Jeff comes back and lets us know what he found out from the supplier.
 
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