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mbjannusch

mbjannusch

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I posted a similar thread in a post but thought it would get some laughs if I post it hear as well. I am some what a novice, I think I can learn something new every day, mabey I'll die a genius, anyway. I saw a fourth version being portrayed as a first version on the bay. I sent the seller a message correcting him and in the past if a non buckaholic made a mistake they send a message back thanking me for the correct info. Not this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Right or Wrong on the knife?:thumbdn:
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mbjannusch said:
I posted a similar thread in a post but thought it would get some laughs if I post it hear as well. I am some what a novice, I think I can learn something new every day, mabey I'll die a genius, anyway. I saw a fourth version being portrayed as a first version on the bay. I sent the seller a message correcting him and in the past if a non buckaholic made a mistake they send a message back thanking me for the correct info. Not this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Right or Wrong on the knife?:thumbdn:
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mb, you did the right thing. I have had the same thing happen where you dont get a happy reply-thats thier problem when someone wants thier money back. I stopped doing it for a while and Plums success prompted me to try and help out when an obvious error is being made. More have been happy to be corrected than rude.

To keep up on the funny story part of it, there is a 2 dot 110 listed for $999.99 with $9.99 shipping, to add insult to injury:p I alerted him to the fact that he may have made a typo and although the 2 dot was in pretty decent shape, a grand may be a bit steep. He replied that it is not about the price and that he had another knife at $5.63 and I could bid on that if I wanted. I promptly thought...:confused:

BTW-could be on the 4th version looks like the rivits may be headed, maybe 5th 1st variation-need more/better pics.
 
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Ok, now that you gave the guy the best free advertising they did not deserve. How about post their reply to you and not just their auction. Just remember some folks have no class, even when you are trying to help them!

It's in nice condition, two line, two pin, stainless rocker rivet (forth or fifth version) can't see the spring holder.
jb4570
 
brass spring holder on my 4th ver 1st var

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stainless spring holder on my 5th ver 3rd var
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sorry for the bad pic-old camera


also check out longbows avatar or his posts on last sundays picture show for a clear view of the spring holder and other parts:thumbup:
 
Hey Fritz that's sweet,did she come with a sheath?Where did you find that old 110? She's cleaner than a hounds tooth!:D
 
most times i dont bother any more with incorrect listings
once in a while i do ...but the responses knock that back down again
i really feel for the new collector that dont know yet ..
they , as did all of us.. will learn ..
it is a let the buyer beware world and every seller is allowed to boast...
but i really feel for the person buying one for a collector that gets taken..
 
skyhorse said:
Hey Fritz that's sweet,did she come with a sheath?Where did you find that old 110? She's cleaner than a hounds tooth!:D
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no sheath on the 2 liner sky, but one with the 3 liner. i really lucked out on the 2 liner-it's mint




youre right 110
 
Is that a stainless rocker rivet on that auction knife, Or brass? The pics look stainless to me. It's still a decent looking old buck 110 with the inverted stamp, Just probably misrepresented for what version it really is.So, even with some notes that DM sent me, I'm still kind of looking for guidance from our resident group of extremely knowledgeable buck 110 experts as to which version it really is. I am with JB on it being a fourth or fith version.The stainless rocker rivet would fall into that cattegory. If so, I wouldn't know which variation of that version. I may bid $12.00 on it! :)
 
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brass spring holder on my 4th ver 1st var

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Fritz,

That looks like an intergrated rear bolster. If it is, that knife is a earlier version than a 4th Ver 1st Var (had a brass spring holder). Yep with that blade profile, nail nick, and intergrated bolster it sure looks like a 3rd Version of some Variation (to many Var's in that Version to keep strait in your head).

Anyone else pick up on this?
 
Is that a stainless rocker rivet on that auction knife, Or brass? The pics look stainless to me. It's still a decent looking old buck 110 with the inverted stamp, Just probably misrepresented for what version it really is.So, even with some notes that DM sent me, I'm still kind of looking for guidance from our resident group of extremely knowledgeable buck 110 experts as to which version it really is. I am with JB on it being a fourth or fith version.The stainless rocker rivet would fall into that cattegory. If so, I wouldn't know which variation of that version. I may bid $12.00 on it!
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JB4570 answered your question about as best it can be answered in Post #3, seaplane.

Need more pictures.

It's a crapshoot. You never know what you're going to get from a seller like that--but that knife will go for a lot more than $12.

Sometimes it pays to gamble.

I got this cheap from a clueless seller with one poor picture. You could not tell the condition of the knife at all.

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It's a brand-new 102 from the early 60s.

Buying on the Bay is risky but the rewards can be great.

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That looks like an intergrated rear bolster. If it is, that knife is a earlier version than a 4th Ver 1st Var (had a brass spring holder). Yep with that blade profile, nail nick, and intergrated bolster it sure looks like a 3rd Version of some Variation (to many Var's in that Version to keep strait in your head).

Anyone else pick up on this?
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I'm sure I remember people telling Fritz this before, but he keeps calling it a 4th. Maybe he knows something we don't.

(Shrug)
 
BG42EDGE said:
I'm sure I remember people telling Fritz this before, but he keeps calling it a 4th. Maybe he knows something we don't.

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If he's happy it's all good. I don't have anything older than a 4th, 1st so I'm real envious of his knife. gw

Edit: I do remember getting into a discussion with a fellow selling a older knife on the Bay. He had the version wrong and because I was interested in buying it I talked to him about it. He said no I was wrong and quoted the page and knife book he had sourced for his claim. Sure enough there is a book out there thats different than Joe's info sheet. Sorry but I've forgotten the name of the book and its author (years ago).

It could be Fritz is on got a different source of info?
 
Flatlander1963 said:
Fritz,

That looks like an intergrated rear bolster. If it is, that knife is a earlier version than a 4th Ver 1st Var (had a brass spring holder). Yep with that blade profile, nail nick, and intergrated bolster it sure looks like a 3rd Version of some Variation (to many Var's in that Version to keep strait in your head).

Anyone else pick up on this?
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I'd love to go along with that g, but I thought the earlier versions had lower case u.s.a and mine is capital. Is that accurate or is it just that joe didnt capitalize them on the spec sheet?
 
I don't think the capitalization on the USA matters.
You have an intergrated bolster, inverted left side stamp, brass rocker rivet with a head, and tiny inlay rivets....I think your knife is likely a Third Version, 8th Variation
 
Flatlander1963 said:
I don't think the capitalization on the USA matters.
You have an intergrated bolster, inverted left side stamp, brass rocker rivet with a head, and tiny inlay rivets....I think your knife is likely a Third Version, 8th Variation
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thats great flat-waaaaa hooooo. Happier than I thought:D:D
 
Flatlander1963 said:
If he's happy it's all good. I don't have anything older than a 4th, 1st so I'm real envious of his knife. gw

Edit: I do remember getting into a discussion with a fellow selling a older knife on the Bay. He had the version wrong and because I was interested in buying it I talked to him about it. He said no I was wrong and quoted the page and knife book he had sourced for his claim. Sure enough there is a book out there thats different than Joe's info sheet. Sorry but I've forgotten the name of the book and its author (years ago).

It could be Fritz is on got a different source of info?
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Flatlander i really think you have some thing here!!
i have seen the "official" data sheet change several times
if so facto then the others, they must be "wrong"..?
Levine's book in different years has diff year information i think

seems almost that if some one list version data then may be that
they got it from a old source..and they are trying..
not every one has access to our data..
some sellers may welcome information as they dont want to have a sale come back on them as false
some jest dont care if it is not correct ...
and it does no good to correct them
i will not bother to correct sellers any longer
i jest giggle at a lot of the wording in the listings
some times you have to think of what is not said!
as always let the buyer beware!
 
110 Dave said:
Flatlander i really think you have some thing here!!
i have seen the "official" data sheet change several times
if so facto then the others, they must be "wrong"..?
Levine's book in different years has diff year information i think

seems almost that if some one list version data then may be that
they got it from a old source..and they are trying..
not every one has access to our data..
some sellers may welcome information as they dont want to have a sale come back on them as false
some jest dont care if it is not correct ...
and it does no good to correct them
i will not bother to correct sellers any longer
i jest giggle at a lot of the wording in the listings
some times you have to think of what is not said!
as always let the buyer beware!
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Levine's!!! That was the book the guy quoted. Very tiffy about it too.
Anyway, I like Joe's list before the most current update. :D
 
Yes, some Levine books have had version numbers that don't match up with Joe's. I've seen people on e-Bay reference it before.

But Flat.......there ain't no setcha thing as an 8th variation of the third version.

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