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eric22green

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Allright, so I got a pt5 from a forum member here, sold as new( I dont blame the member who sold it, he was helpfull, and I think he didnt notice). But it had a blunted tip, very blunted, so I sent it back to busse to be replaced or sharpened. ( FYI, the knife WAS new, no use, it is possible that the tip was damaged after it left busse, but if you saw the grind you would see how it is more likely that it left busse with a blunt tip)

well it came back today, big chunk missing out of the urban camo on the spine near the tip, it looks like it was only sharpned on one side being as that one side has maybe .0625" more "edge" to it, and last a burr was left on the edge. the tip is so uneven that you can see it in the spine of the knife, like the whole grind was screwed in one fell swoop.I mean did only one side get sharpened, the tip is no longer blunt, but the front edge is not as sharp as it was, I dont know...

I am pretty bummed, I like the knife, not thta I would WANT to sell it, but now I couldnt without taking a hit. Lucky I have an edge-pro so I could maybe get the burr straightened up, but forget about reprofiling the thing.


this is only one of a few busses I have had, the only one I own right now... I am just so shocked, really surpridsed, I dont think I am gonna have to deal with this again from busse:(
 
yeah , thats what someone else said too, but I shipped it with help form a member, I mena I never could finsd the email or phone number, so it jsut went kinda blind. I looked at the site before I shipped it of course.

But I dont know, I guess I should send it back, I feel like i would rather say the hell with it and throw it in my truck, I just dont understand what , how, how did it leave like that? did I fall through a crack, is this becoming commonplace with busse, sure aint what I expected.
 
Eric,

Please send it back to my attention. I will fix the problem personally.

Sorry for any inconvenience,

Jerry Busse
 
Jerry Busse said:
Eric,

Please send it back to my attention. I will fix the problem personally.

Sorry for any inconvenience,

Jerry Busse
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Now that's rapid quality service!!
 
on my straight handled badger attack, the shop grind was symetrical, except for the 1/4 of the tip, wich is very asymetrical. i assumed that this was to enhance the strength of that area.

i have many times found myself displeased with the busse factory edge, in that it was very blunt feeling. one of the reasons for this is that its not finished correctly, meaning put to a high polish and stropped. when you have an edge thats 35-50 degree's on both sides, the only way its gonna feel sharp is if its leather honed and high polished, otherwise its just going to feel like the corner of a table.

i didnt realize that until i got my shba, wich has a well honed factory edge, and is quite sharp for what i it is. even though its not *sharp* as in a 21 degree edge.

if you do deside to try to reprofile it on your edge pro, good luck. ive tried it with a public defender (wich has a TON of metal behind the edge, and a very low primary grind. i sharpened the front almost to a complete zero edge (pukko style) because the primary grind is close to 17/19 degrees) and ended up with a coatless knife, that had rounded grind lines instead of a thinner edge/primary grind.

it takes a little fines to get busse knives to sharpness, more so then i have found with other knives. but it is worth the time to do so.

again, good luck
 
SethMurdoc said:
one of the reasons for this is that its not finished correctly, meaning put to a high polish and stropped.
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Perhaps it is just not finished to your wants or needs. Personally I wouldn't tell Jerry, who has been making knives for over 20 years, that he isn't finishing his knives correctly.

:D:D
 
Eric Isaacson said:
Perhaps it is just not finished to your wants or needs. Personally I wouldn't tell Jerry, who has been making knives for over 20 years, that he isn't finishing his knives correctly.

:D:D
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:D:D:D
No doubt.
 
All new model knives coming out of the Busse Shop are fixture sharpened at a 20 degree angle from tip to choil.

Prior to this, all Busse knives were sharpened free-hand. That can cause different angles depending on who does the sharpening.

Hope that helps,

Jerry :cool:
 
always nice to know that a company is still giving their knives a personal touch in one way or another. :D
 
Jerry Busse said:
All new model knives coming out of the Busse Shop are fixture sharpened at a 20 degree angle from tip to choil.

Prior to this, all Busse knives were sharpened free-hand. That can cause different angles depending on who does the sharpening.

Hope that helps,

Jerry :cool:
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so, i stand by what i said :cool: :D

the pub defender i got with factory edge couldnt cut anything. literally, it couldnt cut fabric or anything denser then paper. i could rip it apart, like i would with a chisel, or a nail puller, but there was no edge to it. it was a fat enough angle, that the slightest rounding of the innitial cutting edge killed any cutting ability the blade had. once it was stropped a few times, it was worlds better.

im not saying that jerry isnt doing them correctly by any means, just that the knives ive gotten that had factory edges were dull (save for the shba). if i can run the blade across my palm, and put an indention into the skin 1/4"+ without cutting into it, its dull. it may not be butter knife dull, but it makes it seem below par when you go out and try to do utility chores with it, and find yourself putting a lot of muscle behind the knife to cut anything.
 
Eric22green,

I feel your pain,,I venture to say I have prolly had more dull Busse knives than just about anyone. :grumpy:
However, after I sent ten in one batch back to the factory to be re-shapened
Mr. Busse sent me the means to touch-up the edges to make them scream.
(Yo, Jerry when are you going public with the adjustable stropping device? it is just to cool) ;)

Busse knives are beater knives, Flakes of the coating come off from time to time in the sharpening process,,in a user knife this means almost nothing.
For collector knives it may.

Most of the newer more collectable knives are shiny with no coating to flake.

The knife came back from the factory duller in the main part of the blade?
It may sound odd, but if you chop good clean wood with it it may suddenly become screaming sharp, that happened to me more than once,,I have no good explanation for how this can happen. :eek:
Edited to add Whittle if knife is to small to chop with.

Just my long-winded 2 cents :footinmou
 
Hey mr Jerry :)

sorry to have to post, I cant pm here and I tried to email...

I still dont have this pt5 back, it has been 3 months since I last wrote an email, no worries, I jsut want to make sure the blade is still there and not lost in the mail or something :)

you could email me if you like, eg0505@bellsouth.net

Thanks a bunch

Eric
 
papathud said:
Eric22green,


Mr. Busse sent me the means to touch-up the edges to make them scream.
(Yo, Jerry when are you going public with the adjustable stropping device? it is just to cool) ;)

Three months is a long time for them to hold your knife,, :eek:

Are you having something special done to it? :cool:

Or just getting it sharp? :confused:
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Well considering I've been waiting 5 months for Jerry to send the Force Ones to sheathe makers...
 
Cabbit,

Five Months for a sheath?

Take delivery of Nekid Knife,,,,Sent to AZ,,,,to BuyBrown,,,,Tell him what you want the sheath to do,,,Wait a day or two,,,then do like the M.Jackson Song and "Beat It"
The Knife that is,,,,or the sheath,,,BuyBrown sheaths will take abuse
 
Okay, here's the thing.

The Busse Combat Sheathe Policy explicitly states:

"They have Busse blades to work with so you can simply order directly from them without having to send in your own knife."

If I had known that I would have to send my blade out, I would have had Jerry send it straight to the sheathe maker.

So in short, Jerry does not follow his own policies and guidelines.

I'm very dissatisfied with my Busse experience because of this.

It's a great knife, but it's obvious Jerry doesn't give a rat's ass about the people who purchased it.
 
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