Bummer...

I beg to differ cabbit. Jerry has always made things right. ALWAYS! Thats why most of my fixed blades are all Busse or from that damned swamp. ;) Public remarks like that seem to be made just to cause trouble. Speak with the man in person (phone) before bashing him and his good name on his own forum. I bet you a knife he makes it right for you. Just my 2 cents
 
Cabbit said:
Okay, here's the thing.

The Busse Combat Sheathe Policy explicitly states:

"They have Busse blades to work with so you can simply order directly from them without having to send in your own knife."

If I had known that I would have to send my blade out, I would have had Jerry send it straight to the sheathe maker.

So in short, Jerry does not follow his own policies and guidelines.

I'm very dissatisfied with my Busse experience because of this.

It's a great knife, but it's obvious Jerry doesn't give a rat's ass about the people who purchased it.




I;m sure when Mr. Busse set that up there wasn't a war going on. If you have a problem call the man. I know from my on experience he truly cares about each and every knife and its owner. This man is a class act. :grumpy:
 
Hey Cabbit, check my posts when I first got here. You'll see that Jerry is an honorable man. I don't get over a "wrong" easily but at 1 time I had 19 Busse's and I wouldn't bet my life on any other. As to giving a "rat's ass" about people who purchase his blades, I'm among many former military and current military who would dis-agree with your statement
Just my .02 worth
Bob Mills SSG (Ret)
 
sharpetoys said:
I;m sure when Mr. Busse set that up there wasn't a war going on. If you have a problem call the man. I know from my on experience he truly cares about each and every knife and its owner. This man is a class act. :grumpy:


There's no excuse for hiding behind the war for this.

I'm sure some of our boys over in Iraq ordered Force Ones. It seems Jerry may have left them to struggle for a sheathe themselves...

Jerry doesn't even have to send an actual knife to the sheathe makers, an untreated knife blank or even a plastic form of the same dimensions would suffice.

As for phone calls, well. This is not the first time I've raised this issue, and I know he's read the threads I've posted to. All Jerry had to do is just give an estimate or say "I'm working on it." He's done neither, hasn't said a word.

On top of that there are sheathe makers that I know have been asking him about it and so far, nothing.

If his own selected sheathe makers can't get the situation resolved, why would a phone call from me make a difference?
 
defenitely talk to jerry before you crap on him any further.
i consider him a friend and i don't appreciate it.
if he is in the shop he'll talk to you if you call. (419) 923-6471
if you are not willing to drop a dime and speak to him in person
quit typin' so tuff.
jody
 
If you feel so bent about it, sell the knife and go spend your money somewhere else. As I said before, Jerry has and will continue to take care of our military and other people who's lives depend on the blades they have on their gear when they go in harms way. No hiding there. I'll even help with the problem, I'll take the knife off your hands, w/o sheath for $150 to spare you any more trouble ;) Seriously, call the man and you may be surprised.
Bob Mills
 
Cabbit said:
I'm sure some of our boys over in Iraq ordered Force Ones. It seems Jerry may have left them to struggle for a sheathe themselves...
i have a feeling our men's knives came with sheaths.
 
sucks this thread had to get crapped up, I didnt call cause its no big deal, I asked for some help on the pt5,grind was a little sub-par after coming back from a sharpening, but I am not gonna rush anyone specially since the general idea here was that busse are users, and tiny problems are tolerated, plus I asked for a favor on it, I jsut wanted to make sure htey havent shipped the knife back without emailing and its lost...

ohhh mann... :)
 
eric22green said:
sucks this thread had to get crapped up, I didnt call cause its no big deal, I asked for some help on the pt5,grind was a little sub-par after coming back from a sharpening, but I am not gonna rush anyone specially since the general idea here was that busse are users, and tiny problems are tolerated, plus I asked for a favor on it, I jsut wanted to make sure htey havent shipped the knife back without emailing and its lost...

ohhh mann... :)

Eric, don't worry about the turn this thread took regarding something other than your concern. All will be made right, believe me. I would bet my PT5 on it! That's how much faith I have in Jerry as a business owner and as a man.

Cabbit,

My reading of the sheath issue was that Busse was not in the sheath business, but they offered up space on their web site to advertise the services of trusted sheath makers for Busse knife owners to choose from. If I buy a knife from the shop I know a few things for sure.

A) It doesn't come with a sheath.

B) If I don't want to or can't make my own sheath for my knife, it is on me to get in contact with a sheath maker and set up a deal for a sheath. Whether I take possession of the knife first and then send it to the maker, or have Busse ship it over to them before I even touch it, I know the decision is in my court.

It may be true that Jerry planned to have blade samples to all the makers listed so you don't have to send your own, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I personally wouldn't want a sheath that wasn't made for the exact blade that was going to sit in it, but that is just me. When ever I make a sheath for myself or someone else, I always suggest that they send their knife, even if I have the same model. That reduces the chance of a misfit due to some of the hand made aspects of the blades.

Who do you want to make you a sheath? I will mail my F1 to them so you don't have to. You just let me know and it is out the door for a fitting. Mine has Mag handles though, so if yours doesn't then the maker would have to figure that little detail out.

By the way, Jerry does care about the folks who own his blades. I have seen it first hand. You don't have to be some Uber Hog with a collection worth tens of thousands to get personal service from Jerry Busse.

That's my 2 cents, now if you don't mind I need a drink.
 
Progunner:

Read the first paragraph on the Busse Sheathe Page:

http://www.bussecombat.com/sheaths/

Third sentence: "They have Busse blades to work with so you can simply order directly from them without having to send in your own knife."

Jerry should remove that line.

This was my first Busse purchase, I looked to his web site for guidance.
 
sorry bout that... i already answered what the post was about in another earlier post :rolleyes:

i feel kinda like a jackass....

eh, re edit, screw it. i know its kinda late in the game to be saying it, but i think it has some worth while statments in it. also, wanna stress again that the end of my journey to the highest end highest hard use performance knife set led me to busse, and even if they were half finished i would still buy them. i can be pretty positive that a swamp rat or a 1/4 s7 blade wont fail me, but id ont put my faith in any others.

on the sentence stating that all sheath makers have knives available to them, it is possible that that is no longer the case, and it may be worth giving nic ramirez an email asking about it. he might be able to get to you easier/faster then jerry.

on to the original (late in the game) post

Eric Isaacson said:
Perhaps it is just not finished to your wants or needs. Personally I wouldn't tell Jerry, who has been making knives for over 20 years, that he isn't finishing his knives correctly.

:D:D

when you cant cut anything with a knife, it is unnacceptable. a knife is designed to cut, otherwise it is a wedge.


you are correct that if it was intended to be that way from the factory for a specific purpose (possibly for chopping super hard objects with a pub defender?), then i have no complaints as to the original design or intent, but as a knife it is simply unacceptable. i could not get my pub defender with factory edge to cut anything. it has amazing tip strenght, and could be stabbed full force with absolutely no threat of tip damage, but again, a knife that cannot cut, is unnaceptable.


and honestly, as far as busse combat knives are concerned, if they came without an edge, meaning a completely squared off un sharpened edge, i would be fine with it. i still would have bought every one of them that i bought, and put an edge on it myself. poor cutting performance doesnt deter me from my views of the knife if i can personally change it to my likeing.

infi is infi, it has attributes that cannot be found anywhere else, and so i will buy them regardless of fit and finish. every man who owns a knife should be able to sharpen it himself to a personally satisfactory edge. (not taking a personal stab at the original poster, but i honestly beleive that statement to be true)
 
Cabbit said:
Progunner:

Read the first paragraph on the Busse Sheathe Page:

http://www.bussecombat.com/sheaths/

Third sentence: "They have Busse blades to work with so you can simply order directly from them without having to send in your own knife."

Jerry should remove that line.

This was my first Busse purchase, I looked to his web site for guidance.

Hey, I can't blame you for looking for guidance. Perhaps Jerry would be advised to modify that line. He should advise the perspective sheath buyers to contact the maker of their choice to find out whether they have the knife already or if it would be prudent to have their blade shipped directly to the maker. That doesn't make Jerry a poor business man or uncaring to his customers, not in my book any way.

So in the interest of getting Jerry's back, you tell me who you want to make your sheath and my F1 is on it's way to them. What sort of slabs does yours have? If you have standard slabs and you want kydex, you are going to run into a problem. I have done enough kydex to know that. Leather isn't so much of a problem. So who shall it be?
 
Very Generous Progunner, but mine doesn't have magnum handles.

I appreciate the offer, but at this point I'll either send it myself or sell it.

Sorry to bring this up here, but just reading about this guy and his PT5 really just set me off.
 
Cabbit said:
Very Generous Progunner, but mine doesn't have magnum handles.

I appreciate the offer, but at this point I'll either send it myself or sell it.

Sorry to bring this up here, but just reading about this guy and his PT5 really just set me off.

The offer stands if you decide otherwise. If you are thinking Kydex, maybe one of the masters knows a trick I don't to get around the slab difference. What config did you buy? Finish/handle color etc.?
 
Well, I've been in touch with Leatherman even before I received the knife so If Is end it to anyone it will be him.

He's a great guy.
 
if your willing to possibly mess up the sheath by burning it, its possible to hand press the top portion of a kydex sheath using a stove top burner and a set of cooking mittens. ive found that to be easier sometimes (with better results since it takes less time to press it then moving it into the garage to put into the actual press (cools down during transfer)) then actually pressing it. basically move the sheath back and forth rapidly (to evenly distribute heat) close enough to really heat it without burning it, once its all noodley (hehe... noodley :D ) hand press into shape, let dry. if you get it to shape and it holds it well, you can press it with your fingers and run cold water over it to help it set faster.

kind of a self help deal that might not be what your looking for, but its a possible option
 
Cabbit said:
Well, I've been in touch with Leatherman even before I received the knife so If Is end it to anyone it will be him.

He's a great guy.

Good choice, if I didn't do my own sheath work, I would use Dwayne or Mt. Mike for leather for sure.
 
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