Bura, the Royal Kami.

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Nutnfancy did a great deal to bring in new customers for HI no doubt, I remember a true wave of new guys after his posting; really makes me happy that people find out about HI and its greatness all the time, but it maintains its standards
 
I have/had 3 or 4 knives by Bura, all are top notch quality. I suppose it's no different than Alfred E. Dunhill's using " By appointment to" HRH King George or HRH Queen Elizabeth Regina II. I saw the Royal Seal of the House of Windsor on many brands in England while stationed there. A Royal Appointment certainly in Europe and the UK can be and is taken as both a recommendation and and a sign of skill of manufacture or service befitting royalty. Cheap marketing ploy? Not in my book. No more than Harrod's, Lloyds, Rolls, Bently etc. stating such on their products or advertising.
 
Gehazi said:
.... these are the 3 things he has claimed when asked about why the other company cannot manage to get kami marks

1. HI sued the other guy for copy right infringement and won in court so nobody else in the USA can use Kami marks on any khukuri
2. HI kami marks are not traditional and the other guy wanted to be faithful to traditions so they do not allow low caste kami to mark blades
3. HI kami marks are a marketing ploy and they actually do things just like " the other guy" ....
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I (and others) already spoke to point 3.

Points 1 and 2 contradict each other. But what's a little inconsistency when a person has an axe to grind (no pun intended).

Point 1 is ridiculous. That's like saying an artist can sue to prevent other artists from signing their paintings. Also "the other guy" is in England, not the USA, and the blades are made in Nepal, not the USA or England. I'd love to see the venue for that alleged lawsuit. If there was a lawsuit it would be a matter of public record, so let's see the other guy provide the kind of proof that he's fond of asking for.

Point 2 says that "the other guy" wants to be faithful not only to the tradition of knifemaking, but to the rotten tradition of treating "low caste kamis" like crap. Not all traditions deserve to be perpetuated, and the idea that they should be reflects badly on the other guy, if indeed it is even true (since this claim comes from a third party defending "the other guy").
 
There are a few things that this youtube "reviewer" and his mentor can't refute.

LAL BAHADUR BISHWAKARMA= "Bura" was at one time maker of khukuri/knives for the king of Nepal and the royals. This is fact.
Like many of the bishwakarma who have served various royal families in a long line into time immemorial for centuries.
It may or may not be documented in Nepal. It may be only word of mouth, reputation and trust.
Bura was our shop foreman for many years and is a great family member.
His many years of dedicated service, guidance and help is, and always has been greatly appreciated.
The fact that the royals own blades made by him allow him to claim the title "Royal Kami" and to be known as a member of this select group of skilled individual kami.

I've seen both these individuals say some pretty disgusting things in my time in the game....:(
 
Gehazi said:
yeah I am banned from his channels ,why I was banned is where I got his various explanations on why HI is the only company that manages to let us know who makes our knives and give them the respect they are due as makers.

nobody else can do the kami marks because nobody else lets the kami make the blade from start to finish like HI does, in the traditional way; if I owned enough other company blades I am willing to bet my best HI blades that I could see no difference in the various individual blades, because they were in large part factory produced, with stock and worked on by a multitude from start to finish to save time and money.
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Gehazi, I am fairly sure that the other place had a kami that was schooled unde Bura and then he came back too HI. I see no reason to believe thir blades are not made in the traditional way. And I don't own anything from that other place.
 
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Darth, I love HI but their blades have been rolled as well, have been soft and so on. My basis for this are posts made here by people that use their kukris heavily. I am a HI fanboy but let's not act otherwise than Bill would've wanted. Yes, even Bura blades have rolled (Cliff Stamp wrote it right here) as well as chipped, and I am not speaking about torture tests.

Mass-produced blades will STILL have these problems, so I'm not saying anything bad about HI per-se, because they have the ultimate customer support and stay behind every product. And I know any failure is not the norm. But read a little bit behind, and you will see for yourself. I don't want us to leave the impression on anyone that HI is crunching out perfect blades and nothin else.

I know very well the other guy's tactics but, again, I'm not sure Bill himself would've approved us speaking too loosely about a man that cannot say his part in he debate.

The day a traditional kukri maker will start to check each and every blade they produce with the test outlined by Bill will be a big thing. This way, only the properly-hardened blades would ge to the customers. I would pay more to hav that guarantee. It might not be a big thing for US people to return a blade, but from some parts of the world with screwed-up laws that would be next to impossible.

Again, I am a HI fanboy, but one that sees that every time the other guys pop up in conversation, automatically the quality of heir product is out under scrutiny, while the same can be said of any handmade knife, from time to time.

Sorry if I am being too blunt. Love me some HI, but love me the truth more and the values Uncle Bill started this business under.
 
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And I would jump on he opportunity to own any Bura blade and will never consider buying a kukri from anywhere else but HI and yet another place maybe, not mentioned in this convo, and not a big "khukuri house".
 
yeah it is just that this is our home turf moon, so you have to expect vehement defense and support for HI, who lives here. There would be no bad blood between me and these other fellows if they did not specifically attempt to build their own brand by trying to downplay the strengths of HI. I suspect they claimed to have a kami from HI for the same reason they claim that they do all the same things as HI-- minus the kami marks that prove it, because the other company is only interested in making money for a fat englishman, not for enriching the country of nepal.

fact is that nobody gives the worker prominence like HI-- and I would not believe a single word that passed from the lips of the englishman or his toady; who have a vested interest in lying about how they manufacture; since people like me value the kami and want the kami's mark.
 
+1 to Gehazi. Figured we'd be mostly of one mind here after all. Anyways, the almighty Karda has spoken!
 
Water off a ducks back! We are repeat customers for a reason. Even if Nutnfancy gave HI a horrible review it would have changed absolutely nothing about my relationship with the company. Its products speak much louder than any words! My dos centavos.

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The royal dog awaiting the royal horn polisher to perform maintenance on the royal pile of Buras ...I wish. There's four or five Buras in there at least.
 
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ndoghouse said:
Water off a ducks back! We are repeat customers for a reason. Even if Nutnfancy gave HI a horrible review it would have changed absolutely nothing about my relationship with the company. Its products speak much louder than any words! My dos centavos.
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Amen brother.
 
Gehazi, I take everything "from other sources" with a grain of salt. My point was tha I will be fair even with my enemies. (Not that I know to have any.)
 
Yup that dog is gonna bit ya, I can feel it in my cells.

EMS sent for lot # 1 kami dog Bura's. Hope I get the done deal.
 
He wont bite me but he will tear up my big dogs. He's a bully! The big dogs are afraid to go past him sometimes if hes in a hallway or something. Ill hear one of them whimpering like a little puppy because he cant get by. I have to run the little dog off so the big ones can pass. Jack Russel's arent big or small. Size is not in their dictionary. Bully I say! We need some Bura pics in this thread!

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EMS sent for lot # 1 kami dog Bura's. Hope I get the done deal.
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Uhhh....having problems with AOL today? Hmmm?
 
Wow, just saw the video you were reffering to, 00Turok. I really like that gentleman's audacity to decide for anyone what weight of a blade fits them. And comparing a kukri with a machete...oh please. Tha Tramontina is 2-3 mm at spine, he's trying too hard to make a point. Laughable.
 
And about Bura...he can't say for sure, but "most likely" a marketing ploy...well, you either know something, or you don't; if you don't, then shut up.

Ypu guys shouldn't have booted this guy out, would've been a lot of fun having him around...
 
And he's using he FoxyFolly as backgroud as he's talking about how heavy and unidimensional HI blades are. A genius, isn't he, to choose one of the lightest historical blades to prove his point :)?

And it seems to me that lighte models anyway have a good following aroud here. As well as that others somehow got M43s forged by Kumar on the lighter scale, while he didn't. Very, very interesting...
 
yeah he just nitpicked and tried to cause problems because he had an agenda, when HI has blades for all preferences.
 
Gehazi said:
yeah he just nitpicked and tried to cause problems because he had an agenda, when HI has blades for all preferences.
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Exactly right Gehazi-Everything from 11" Pen knives to giant 20"+ Chiruwa Ang Kholas. There is a reason that "sweet central america" is banned from the forums, and why HI has a loyal following.
 
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