Bushcraft community hate towards non-bushcraft knives? What's up with this bushcraft craze? 😂

[shane45-1911]

I agree. Everyone knows that the "Jungle Golok" is where it's at.

My jungle Golok didn't work in the desert. Didn't cut worth crap.

 

[RousingRabbles]

Those are legitimate names for specific tasks. Bushcraft is not a specific task.

Fair point, as some of them are for one very specific task. So then kitchen knives, butcher knives, hunting knives don’t exist then right? Bushcraft is a term that applies specifically to outdoor woodcraft (carving, whittling, chopping, etc). Whether one uses it in the context of what it means is as likely as any other knife being used for the specific set of tasks that it was intended for. If you think having a name for a specific hobby/skillset is silly feel free to not use it.

 

[Blues]

To be honest, I think that the "paring knife" is probably one of the most useful knives for tasks included under virtually any umbrella of utility.

 

[Houlahound]

No matter how many times people say bushcraft isn't a thing it has no impact on the fact that bushcraft is a thing.


Go ahead say bushcraft isn't a thing in large bold red font, all caps with an underline and you will still be wrong.

 

[J. Doyle]

To be honest, I think that the "paring knife" is probably one of the most useful knives for tasks included under virtually any umbrella of utility.

Agree. And there's hundreds of variations of "paring knives"......many drastically different than each other.

 

[shane45-1911]

If you think having a name for a specific hobby/skillset is silly feel free to not use it.

I don't have an issue with bushcraft as a name or a hobby. My issue is solely with bushcraft KNIVES.

Jeez, is it really this hard for some people to understand the difference?

 

[J. Doyle]

No matter how many times people say bushcraft isn't a thing it has no impact on the fact that bushcraft is a thing.


Go ahead say bushcraft isn't a thing in large bold red font, all caps with an underline and you will still be wrong.

I don't think anyone is saying that.

I think most are saying "bushcraft knife" isn't a thing..........because it isn't.

 

[shane45-1911]

No matter how many times people say bushcraft isn't a thing it has no impact on the fact that bushcraft is a thing.


Go ahead say bushcraft isn't a thing in large bold red font, all caps with an underline and you will still be wrong.

OMG. Bushcraft IS a thing. Sort of. Just another name for outdoor activities that existed long before "bushcraft" was made up.

A bushcraft knife is not a thing.

EDIT - stop typing so fast, John.

 

[not2sharp]

Learning to make a one-stick fire is challenging and sometimes frustrating, but really fun over time. Knowing that I cant get a fire going with minimal tools and less than perfect resources is a good feeling. Splitting a stick into increasingly smaller chunks and then shavings is a relaxing way to spend an afternoon.

Using my Bic is way more efficient, but doing so lacks the sense of accomplishment (I would not hesitate to use a Bic or other open flame source in an emergency, though). But I still like to light the charcoal in my grill with feather sticks and a ferro rod.

Probably shaves with his Bowie knife…

n2s

 

[RousingRabbles]

I don't have an issue with bushcraft as a name or a hobby. My issue is solely with bushcraft KNIVES.

Jeez, is it really this hard for some people to understand the difference?

Not at all. That’s why I asked what your stance is on hunting knives (multi task), kitchen knives (multi style, multi task), butcher knives (multi task), carving knives (multi task), etc? If makers should stop referring to knives as bushcrafting knives, it’s equally appropriate they drop the label on those too

 

[shane45-1911]

Not at all. That’s why I asked what your stance is on hunting knives (multi task), kitchen knives (multi style, multi task), butcher knives (multi task), carving knives (multi task), etc? If makers should stop referring to knives as bushcrafting knives, it’s equally appropriate they drop the label on those too

I call them all "knives". Just knives. KNIVES.

 

[Quiet]

No matter how many times people say bushcraft isn't a thing it has no impact on the fact that bushcraft is a thing.


Go ahead say bushcraft isn't a thing in large bold red font, all caps with an underline and you will still be wrong.

It's spectacular how you keep missing the point. "Bushcraft" isn't a "thing". It's a term that was made up to describe a base of outdoors skills, which is a thing that already existed. It's why it's laughable that there are "bushcraft" people out there who are trying to present themselves as experts or some sort of authority, when there were actual experts and authorities and books written long before the term was coined, and in general use. You don't get to make up a term for something, then decide that that thing that already existed only exists as the term you've coined. Camping, survival, living offgrid, "getting out into nature", wood carving, firemaking, are all things that existed before the term "bushcraft".

So, no, we aren't "wrong", and in fact that argument makes you look simple. Stop that, it's a bad look.

 

[Quiet]

Also, the argument about scandi grind "bushcraft knives" continues to be misconstrued. The fact of the matter is that everything you can do with a "bushcraft" specific knife (scandi grind, the whole thing) can be done with virtually any other knife. That's the fact of the matter. "Well, they're the best at...." At nothing. You can literally carve wood, start a fire, make a shelter, and do everything else with a knife in virtually any other grind.

In fact, "bushcraft" knives kinda suck at food prep for one, which last I checked, was a HUGE part of bushcra...sorry, camping, wood carving around a campfire, building a shelter, and making neat things outta wood while out in the woods.

So, let's stop acting like a single knife design feature means it's so much better than others, because it just isn't.

Edited to add this. Oh, and while I'm on a roll here, someone said a few pages back that a scandi-grind knife was "the best" for woodcarving and crafting stuff out in the woods. Really? "The best"? Yeah, I'm going to need to see some objective qualification for such a statement (and it better not be "Well, this bigtime Buschcraftjer on Youtube said...."). As an example, I can't beat the world Olympic champion best sprinter in the 100meter dash. Not a day in my life have I ever been in the shape to be able to do that. THAT guy is unequivocally the best.

No, I want to see something that bushcraftjers make that cannot be made with a knife that has a flat grind, hollow grind, or whatever else. Spoons? Cups? Tent poles? Sorry, I've done all those before with other knives. I've got an old Super Tinker still wrattling around here that I bet I've carved more cups and spoons with than most of the big famous Youboob Bushcraft people. Intricate carving? There's a Bladeforums member who's responded to this very thread who is well known over on the Porch for his wood-carving. You can ask him what he uses, spoiler alert: it's usually a GEC slipjoint. Oops!!

Anyway, that's where we're at with this terminology kerfluffle.

Signed, a guy who's done ALL those things with a wide variety of fixed blades and folders, none of which were a scandi-grind puuko or other such knife.

P.S. No, I don't have a Youtube channel, because sorry, I was out camping and dicking around having fun in the woods on long weekends since before social media was a thing, or Youtube as an entity even existed. First time I went camping, cell-phones weren't even a thing, and there was a 486DX sitting at home on my parents' "computer" desk.

 

[coolbreezy37]

To me Bushcrafting equals camping. Plain and simple. I’ve done everything that would be considered “Bushcraft”. I respect the idea and logic behind it. I just don’t like the fact that entitled millennials bastardize the concept and their logic is if you don’t do it with their specific knife and/or gear, you’re doing it wrong.

 

[Houlahound]

Apparently the key argument is that bushcraft can't be a thing because there were already olden days people that did bushcrafty things hence anyone that didn't die 200+ years ago is not allowed to participate in bushcrafty type activities or call it bushcraft because they didn't die 200+ years ago.


Got it, alas bushcraft is still a thing and bushcraft knives exist to do bushcraft knife activities with.....sue me.

 

[Quiet]

Apparently the key argument is that bushcraft can't be a thing because there were already olden days people that did bushcrafty things hence anyone that didn't die 200+ years ago is not allowed to participate in bushcrafty type activities or call it bushcraft because they didn't die 200+ years ago.


Got it, alas bushcraft is still a thing and bushcraft knives exist to do bushcraft knife activities with.

Whoooooshhhh....there it goes! The point! Almost got it!

Also, maybe try not setting up a strawman to knock down. That's not my argument at all (though I can't say I'm surprised at your attempt). I'm going to try to distill this down very simply for you: people are free to call things what they wish, but they don't get to get mad and then blame others when those others don't respect the made-up names of that thing. Let me tell you. I like bananas. If I wake up tomorrow, and discover that a whole bunch of banana fans are now calling them "ape handfood", guess what? I'm still calling 'em bananas, and I'm going to get a chuckle out of people who get mad that I'm not using their favored terminology.

Also, "bushcraft knife" is a marketing tool. Marketing is for suckers. Every knife is technically a "bushcraft knife" unless you can show me right now something that a "bushcraft knife" can do that any other knife can't do. I'll wait.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

Bushcraft isn’t a thing. This days “bushcraft” became a name for indicating an industry targeting specific market.
‘IMO big part of the confusion is the fact that often the term unites the activities of the camping with the one of “surviving” as “bushcraft” is oriented in essence mostly to the later, I think.
‘Unfortunately, not everyone realizes that camping allows you to bring out in the open (generally speaking) larger set of tools and utilities, where the “survival” part of the bushwhack concentrates on minimal, universal set of tools, this is where they hit you with all the $600 knives and such…
‘From my short experience being out in the woods, I’d say that 2 knives are must… One for fine work, usually Swiss knife with scissors and at least one very sharp edge, and one, around 6” blade serious chopper, because if you don’t have folding saw or such, 99% of the time you will use this knife for chopping or splitting wood.

 

[shane45-1911]

"bushcraft knife" is a marketing tool. Marketing is for suckers. Every knife is technically a "bushcraft knife" unless you can show me right now something that a "bushcraft knife" can do that any other knife can't do.

THIS.

Close thread.

 

[Jiki]

Wait, what? I need a scandi grind?

 

[Quiet]

Wait, what? I need a scandi grind?

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