Busse and/or CPK

Brummie

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I’m not ashamed to admit I know very little about CPK’s offerings, never owned one.

I did pick up a Busse AMS a couple years ago (I like small fixed blades), but it just didn’t work for my hands, too small and it became more and more uncomfortable after use. I stuck it in a generic KSF sheath and gifted it to a member on here.
So my question is, does CPK offer something with a similar blade size/shape but a more substantial handle while maintaining a short ( 7”-ish ) OAL?
CPK have an EDC model with around a 3" blade. The handle is quite hand-filling, but not particularly long. You'll have to get input from others on how it works with very large hands, as mine aren't.
 

unwisefool

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I’m not ashamed to admit I know very little about CPK’s offerings, never owned one.

I did pick up a Busse AMS a couple years ago (I like small fixed blades), but it just didn’t work for my hands, too small and it became more and more uncomfortable after use. I stuck it in a generic KSF sheath and gifted it to a member on here.
So my question is, does CPK offer something with a similar blade size/shape but a more substantial handle while maintaining a short ( 7”-ish ) OAL?

*holy cow lol “a couple years ago” was 2013 😳 …time flies 😂
Not the same blade shape, but take a look at the Dek or EDC. And if I'm being honest, CPK has the best handles I've ever used.
 

Lorien

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I designed the CPK EDC to be a compact and safe to use little workhorse. I guess maybe it's more donkey than workhorse. If you can get your hands on one, you'll be able to cut with it all day long without your hands telling you when to stop
 

000Robert

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I decided to put my money where my mouth is.... Picked up a Busse Last Rites on the exchange. Time to see for myself.

I'm sure that they are fine knives. I just love the design and everything of CPK knives and figure that they are all I'll ever need. I might grab a Busse someday just to have one. I would love to have a CPK auto. I would try to be ready for that preorder!
 

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Scrap Yard Dog Soldier 6
CPK Utility Fighter
Swamp Rat Ratmandu

They're all pretty good :)

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Cobalt

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I'm sure that they are fine knives. I just love the design and everything of CPK knives and figure that they are all I'll ever need. I might grab a Busse someday just to have one. I would love to have a CPK auto. I would try to be ready for that preorder!
I decided to put my money where my mouth is.... Picked up a Busse Last Rites on the exchange. Time to see for myself.
you huys are lucky that we are in a time where great steels and HT's are available. There was a time when it wasn't just the american auto industry that sucked.

And that's how new you are to knives when I hear fairly new knives being talked about as"that all I've ever used". Again, no slam on you, maybe just how long I have been into this is something I don't often think about.

Busse was making extreme tough knives when tough knives were not popular and knife makers would get angry at users who did anything harder than slicing with their knives. The reality is that many tried, but the only real successful strong knife maker in the 90's was Cold Steel and then Busse hit the scene with knives that were well beyond CS in strength and durability. CS still had fine products being made, however, CS was the first to make strength and toughness a priority in their sales.

here are some late 90's knives and pics from the early 2000's. and there is so much more. like this
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Amazon Native using Ron Hoods battlemistress in 1997
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another 90's or early 2k picture

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TRfromMT

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you huys are lucky that we are in a time where great steels and HT's are available. There was a time when it wasn't just the american auto industry that sucked.

And that's how new you are to knives when I hear fairly new knives being talked about as"that all I've ever used". Again, no slam on you, maybe just how long I have been into this is something I don't often think about.

Busse was making extreme tough knives when tough knives were not popular and knife makers would get angry at users who did anything harder than slicing with their knives. The reality is that many tried, but the only real successful strong knife maker in the 90's was Cold Steel and then Busse hit the scene with knives that were well beyond CS in strength and durability. CS still had fine products being made, however, CS was the first to make strength and toughness a priority in their sales.

here are some late 90's knives and pics from the early 2000's. and there is so much more. like this
z9rfM5D.jpg

Mz0zqJC.jpg


z9xCw7Y.jpg


Amazon Native using Ron Hoods battlemistress in 1997
7mh2ePA.jpg


another 90's or early 2k picture

Rba4yDk.jpg




My experience with better quality fixed blades began in about 2015(?) So, yeah, admittedly limited and spoiled experience.

I had to dispose of a microwave last weekend. After removing the internal heavy, chunky bits, a 2lb sledge was used to separate the shell and housing, and 'compact' it for the bin. It never occured to me to subject it to a knife point... 🤔
 

unwisefool

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My experience with better quality fixed blades began in about 2015(?) So, yeah, admittedly limited and spoiled experience.

I had to dispose of a microwave last weekend. After removing the internal heavy, chunky bits, a 2lb sledge was used to separate the shell and housing, and 'compact' it for the bin. It never occured to me to subject it to a knife point... 🤔
Microwaves are hollow inside, just pick it up and squeeze from both ends. Should fold up like a milk carton...
 

Cobalt

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My experience with better quality fixed blades began in about 2015(?) So, yeah, admittedly limited and spoiled experience.

I had to dispose of a microwave last weekend. After removing the internal heavy, chunky bits, a 2lb sledge was used to separate the shell and housing, and 'compact' it for the bin. It never occured to me to subject it to a knife point... 🤔

Microwaves are hollow inside, just pick it up and squeeze from both ends. Should fold up like a milk carton...

It's a lot more fun using it as a target. 🤣
 

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Way too complicated. Just put a disposable steel pot in the MW and switch it on.
 

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Idle Sunday morning thoughts on semantics :) .... :

Patrick brought up a good point, actually: it also popped up in another thread, where I said some of my fixed EDC had 3V steel, and I was corrected that - no, the CPK had Delta 3V.

Is a proprietary heat treat part of the "knife steel", or not ? I casually included it in post #4. A Chemist would say no.

Us knife enthusiasts, not so sure: For example, we all very much distinguish between 154CM and CPM 154, because we like the additional toughness. But: chemically, they are the same.

What say you ?
As a chemist, with respect to heat treats, I would say that to the extent that the detailed structure and measurable properties are different (e.g., graphite vs diamond), then they can be recognized as different.
 

Murphjd25

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I designed the CPK EDC to be a compact and safe to use little workhorse. I guess maybe it's more donkey than workhorse. If you can get your hands on one, you'll be able to cut with it all day long without your hands telling you when to stop
I agree, thanks for this knife Lorien. I don’t even use my folders anymore, and carry the EDC2 daily. I’ve cut some pretty messed up stuff with it too and it keeps on going. Love the handle, I just want to keep cutting with it all day long.
 

Andy the Aussie

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I have "a couple" of Busses.... it's not the only brand of knife I like and I think some of the CPK designs look great !! I really don't think anyone can go wrong buying the one they like.
 
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