Busse craze?

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Im just happy that all this half made up half hyped up B.S. these Trolls are pedaling doesnt
Seem to affect too many people. Still seems like Busse sells knives faster than they can make them.
Go Busse. Best knives I ever had were made by Busse.
 
mainaman said:
That is self explanatory, of course there is no need to go through a living three, it is also a lot easier to chop through than a long dead one.


For the vids:

Here is a channel :
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCReKyb0rO1E2Leamipn7Yfg/videos
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Thanks Mainaman,i tought this exact guy reminding me of noss4 videos from few years back,any clue why he changed the nickname? Not that really matters,but strange move for being known under other nick and often refered to by many....
 
My busse groove master has served me very well in the field on deer an game, field dressing, skinned, quartered during the season and anything else I asked of it.
 
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bdmicarta said:
What about the ones that the hockey-mask guys broke on youtube?
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Are you talking about the one they put in a vice and hit the handle repeatedly with a sledgehammer?

I thought they could only get it to bend until they moved it further out of the vice and wailed on it even longer. IIRC, they were very impressed with the results and dubbed it a "survivor", meaning if they hadn't botched the test, they couldn't have broken it. (If I'm thinking of the correct videos anyway...)
 
Seriousbladeno1 said:
Thanks Mainaman,i tought this exact guy reminding me of noss4 videos from few years back,any clue why he changed the nickname? Not that really matters,but strange move for being known under other nick and often refered to by many....
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Noss is done testing, had some health issues a while back that stopped him and he didn't bother getting back into it, the videos came down when google/youtube changed its user policy sometime back, then "All Outdoor" acquired permission from Noss to re-upload the old tests which is why they now appear under that channel. Great to have them coming back :thumbup:
 
I've tested different HI Kuks. The heavier HI blades break chips out of hard oak faster and less tiring than lighter HI blades which bounce off of that extremely hard wood and require so many chips that the lighter Kuks wear me out faster than the heavy ones. The lighter Kuks however excell for lighter vegitation where weight isnt needed and speed more important.
So much for differently weighted knives from the same steel same maker and similar edge geometry and blade shape.
I would love to compare heavy HI blades to lighter Busse blades to see if they found a way to really chop better with less weight. That would be great. So far I doubt it'll work but would make an honest test and even buy a Busse if its better, especially at less weight. Tax refund is soon and it would be a great excuse to get another knife. If it doesn't work with lighter busses maybe a more fair test would be to compare knives of similar weight and length.
Who will send me some big Busses to compare them to some similar weighted specimen of my HI collection?
I'm very curious but not $400 upfront curious. I also see how nobody would borrow me one of their babies. Maybe meeting would work.
Any Busse friends in the Sacramento/Folsom area?
I bring the oak and the HI and you the Busse Beasts.
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mainaman said:
Sounds good.
If you can post a video it will be best, and certainly people will want to see some pics.
The parameters of the test have to be defined a little bit here. Obviously both knives will eat 6" or smaller logs easy, so IMHO the test should be on ~10" three. This ensures one has to do some work to get through the wood. I am curious which knife will do the job faster and which will be easier to use.
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I guess this has always been the issue for me. Why am I cutting a 10" diameter log without an axe or a chain saw? Cutting wood that size is work. It's not survival, it's not "camp chores," it's work. So what does the test simulate other than "look what I did with a knife?" I see the word performance being thrown around and I have no doubt infi is great, but what is this "performance" that costs 400+ bucks used for really? I don't need extra performance to do things that don't need to be done. I guess this is the sticking point for me. That and I've owned too many of the kin blades. Too big, too thick and atrocious edges for the things that actually need to be done in camp. Just my opinion.
 
Shotgun said:
I guess this has always been the issue for me. Why am I cutting a 10" diameter log without an axe or a chain saw? Cutting wood that size is work. It's not survival, it's not "camp chores," it's work. So what does the test simulate other than "look what I did with a knife?"
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Claims were made than knife A is better than knife B based on dimensions only. Since that is not the only factor that determines how good a knife is, a chop off mush be had.
I see the word performance being thrown around and I have no doubt infi is great, but what is this "performance" that costs 400+ bucks used for really? I don't need extra performance to do things that don't need to be done. I guess this is the sticking point for me. That and I've owned too many of the kin blades. Too big, too thick and atrocious edges for the things that actually need to be done in camp. Just my opinion.
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Everyone looks differently at those things. Who knows what situation will occur where one will wish their knife was a bit tougher and did not fail. So there is the performance art I guess. As fr as edges, reprofiling is not uncommon practice, the folks at Busse can't know what every single person likes so they do middle of road serviceable edge.
Here examples of Busse and kin in use that show the knifes are very usable.

[video=youtube;II9HTrEnIgQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II9HTrEnIgQ[/video]
[video=youtube;r4N2P6d66is]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4N2P6d66is[/video]
[video=youtube;_VRr-hu1qcU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRr-hu1qcU[/video]
 
Yeah Busse and kin are pretty awesome and perform very well for the money IMHO.

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This 1311 needs to be put to work LOL...

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Used up all the coating on my Scrapyard 511 so I cold blued the blade. :thumbup::cool:

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Busse TGLB; what a great blade. :thumbup:

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Jens Schuetz said:
I've tested different HI Kuks. The heavier HI blades break chips out of hard oak faster and less tiring than lighter HI blades which bounce off of that extremely hard wood and require so many chips that the lighter Kuks wear me out faster than the heavy ones. The lighter Kuks however excell for lighter vegitation where weight isnt needed and speed more important.
So much for differently weighted knives from the same steel same maker and similar edge geometry and blade shape.
I would love to compare heavy HI blades to lighter Busse blades to see if they found a way to really chop better with less weight. That would be great. So far I doubt it'll work but would make an honest test and even buy a Busse if its better, especially at less weight. Tax refund is soon and it would be a great excuse to get another knife. If it doesn't work with lighter busses maybe a more fair test would be to compare knives of similar weight and length.
Who will send me some big Busses to compare them to some similar weighted specimen of my HI collection?
I'm very curious but not $400 upfront curious. I also see how nobody would borrow me one of their babies. Maybe meeting would work.
Any Busse friends in the Sacramento/Folsom area?
I bring the oak and the HI and you the Busse Beasts.
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I live on the Peninsula but go to Sacramento every couple months to visit the in-laws. Maybe I can bring a bag full of blades and we can organize a chop off.
 
al g blenny said:
I live on the Peninsula but go to Sacramento every couple months to visit the in-laws. Maybe I can bring a bag full of blades and we can organize a chop off.
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Yes! YES!!!!! Please let this happen! If I lived anywhere near there I'd do it in a heartbeat! :thumbup:
 
Shotgun said:
I see the word performance being thrown around and I have no doubt infi is great, but what is this "performance" that costs 400+ bucks used for really? I don't need extra performance to do things that don't need to be done. I guess this is the sticking point for me.
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Performance (when I use the term) refers to anything I use a knife for. Chopping, hacking, splitting, slicing, shaving, cutting, digging, prying (gasp), etc. Busse knives have exhibited excellent performance to me.

I have no idea why chopping a 10" diameter log would be the golden standard of performance for any knife. If I know I'm going to run into a lot of stuff bigger than around 4-5", I bring an axe.
 
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al g blenny said:
I live on the Peninsula but go to Sacramento every couple months to visit the in-laws. Maybe I can bring a bag full of blades and we can organize a chop off.
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al g blenny said:
I live on the Peninsula but go to Sacramento every couple months to visit the in-laws. Maybe I can bring a bag full of blades and we can organize a chop off.
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Great. I don't like how the OP started the hole thing and some of the flak he got in return but if we get some cool test out of it then it wasn't all bad.

Maybe we should start a different thread and think about how we can compare the chopping power objectively.

Maybe I'll show you how I think chopping a Kukri works best and then you compare it to a Busse with a break in between the two knives, to recover your muscles. You also teach me the best way to hold the Busse and then I compare that to the Kukri. Also with a break in between.
For wood we can use my hard dry oak and in addition some soft pine beams from home depot which many people use for video reviews.
I plan to use my lightest Kukri (full hidden tang) and my completely full tang heaviest/best chopper for really hard stuff. Maybe for Busse you also get your best chopper and then the smallest one you think can still take on a heavy Kukri. I'll measure the weights of my two blades later today just to give some idea.


AntDog said:
Yes! YES!!!!! Please let this happen! If I lived anywhere near there I'd do it in a heartbeat! :thumbup:
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Wow such good responses! Now we HAVE to do it. Just as a heads up, I have a Busse Khuk along with a few other big blades. 3 NMFBM (one is a user so I'll just bring that one), an original Battle Mistress (awesome blade), 1311, and a few smaller ones. I'll for sure bring my favorite blade...the SAR8. I think it's an excellent chopper in the 8" range.
 
Busse Kuk? Nice I didn't know they finally make them. I gotta check the Web page.

I believe a heavier knife will out chop a lighter and shorter one of similar shape. Superior steel would only make a difference if we chop so much wood that dulling happens or if we start to look what's inside rocks. ;)

So I wouldn't be surprised if a 2 pound Battle Mistress out chops a 20oz HI blade.
But also would assume that a 32oz 18 inch HI Kukri would easily win against an 18oz 15inch (oal) SAR8 or the TGLB from Busse. Thats something where I agree with the OP and would thus would be pleasantly surprised if lighter and shorter Busse out chops anything longer and heavier from competitors.

Now the Sar8 against my 20oz 15inch (oal) light Kukri sounds more fair to me even if that's not the point the OP made. Here everything is open in my opinion. With similar weight and length only blade shape (including balance points) and edge geometry should be the determining factor. Steel composition still not unless we cut bricks. :D

What is the weight /size of the Busse Kukri? I will try to find something of equal proportions. Same shape weight and length and I doubt I could tell a difference when just chopping woods. But if we do then that's the most useful experiment to compare the 2 companies blades. Even though it wouldn't prove the OP wrong when he said a HI blade (normally heavy and big) would be better than a Busse (usually less long and less heavy) I guess he didn't think of a Busse Kukri and the famous Battle Mistress :rolleyes:
 
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