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Busse FFBM vs Himalayan Imports 18" AK Chopping Video.

Ankerson

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What I have done here is take the Busse FFBM, the Best Bowie style chopper and put it against the Himalayan Imports 18" AK. Now the HI AK is 1/2" thick and weighs over a pound more than what the Busse FFBM does and it's a Khurki. This video shows what the next step up in choppers does.

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Thanks Ankerson!

No surprise.

I would be curious to see the same kind of test with the Busse Khukuri.
 
Nice, Definately a difference but like you said there's alot more weight in the ak versus the fbm. So the overall weight plus extra length of the ak adds up. :thumbup: Thanks for sharing the video with us all Ankerson. :cool:
 
d762nato said:
Nice, Definately a difference but like you said there's alot more weight in the ak versus the fbm. So the overall weight plus extra length of the ak adds up. :thumbup: Thanks for sharing the video with us all Ankerson. :cool:
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Thanks man. :D

There is nothing like swinging a 4 pound knife I can tell you. :eek:
 
Ankerson said:
Thanks man. :D

There is nothing like swinging a 4 pound knife I can tell you. :eek:
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Yes I could tell, I figured that's why you started chopping with the Ak-Beast first. Hey maybe you should start with the FBM first before the AK?:D :D Not!!
 
d762nato said:
Yes I could tell, I figured that's why you started chopping with the Ak-Beast first. Hey maybe you should start with the FBM first before the AK?:D :D Not!!
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I have had my Khurkies for a long time so I know what they will do, I split logs with the AK without a batten. ;)
 
The only problem with the HI Khuks is the regularity of their steel quality... I would like HI Khuks forged from new spring steel.
 
Coupchoux said:
The only problem with the HI Khuks is the regularity of their steel quality... I would like HI Khuks forged from new spring steel.
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All mine are solid, but then I have had them for like 8 years. :)
 
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Good post Ankerson.

I guess I am a bit jaded. When I got into kukris, my largest knife was a RAT-7, amnd I never even thought of chopping with such a small knife.

I got my first Battle Mistress several years after using my 20" CAK and was expecting great things given the rave chopping reviews they get. I was quite underwhelmed by its performance. Don't get me wrong, I still love my Mistresses, but for doing knife duty, not as choppers.

Coupchoux said:
The only problem with the HI Khuks is the regularity of their steel quality... I would like HI Khuks forged from new spring steel.
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The steel is fine. There's no difference between heating a leaf spring to forging temperature and forging the blade, and doing the same with fresh bar stock.

If you mean consistency of heat treat, sure, but you're talking about guys heat treating with a pot of boiling water. They'll get it wrong sometimes. But in my experience, those times are few and far between. That's why they have the tough recommended break-in, to ascertain if the heat treat is good on that one. If it isn't, they replace it.

I trust my life with the HI knives I have just as I would my Busses.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
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Good post Ankerson.

I guess I am a bit jaded. When I got into kukris, my largest knife was a RAT-7, amnd I never even thought of chopping with such a small knife.

I got my first Battle Mistress several years after using my 20" CAK and was expecting great things given the rave chopping reviews they get. I was quite underwhelmed by its performance. Don't get me wrong, I still love my Mistresses, but for doing knife duty, not as choppers.


The steel is fine. There's no difference between heating a leaf spring to forging temperature and forging the blade, and doing the same with fresh bar stock.

If you mean consistency of heat treat, sure, but you're talking about guys heat treating with a pot of boiling water. They'll get it wrong sometimes. But in my experience, those times are few and far between. That's why they have the tough recommended break-in, to ascertain if the heat treat is good on that one. If it isn't, they replace it.

I trust my life with the HI knives I have just as I would my Busses.
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I wouldn't feel jaded at all if I were you, the Busses are the very best Bowie style choppers made period and they will out chop any other bowie style knife on the market. ;)

NOTHING will out chop a Khurki that even looks like a knife and I mean NOTHING, that's just the way it is. :D

But to carry around a 4 pound Khurki instead of a 2 pound FFBM, well I will take the FFBM with me. :)

THat's unless I am car camping then I would take both. :D
 
Cpl Punishment said:
(Copy of post from HI forum)
Good post Ankerson.

I guess I am a bit jaded. When I got into kukris, my largest knife was a RAT-7, amnd I never even thought of chopping with such a small knife.

I got my first Battle Mistress several years after using my 20" CAK and was expecting great things given the rave chopping reviews they get. I was quite underwhelmed by its performance. Don't get me wrong, I still love my Mistresses, but for doing knife duty, not as choppers.


The steel is fine. There's no difference between heating a leaf spring to forging temperature and forging the blade, and doing the same with fresh bar stock.

If you mean consistency of heat treat, sure, but you're talking about guys heat treating with a pot of boiling water. They'll get it wrong sometimes. But in my experience, those times are few and far between. That's why they have the tough recommended break-in, to ascertain if the heat treat is good on that one. If it isn't, they replace it.

I trust my life with the HI knives I have just as I would my Busses.
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I'm talking about the fact that HI blades are made from old junk leaf springs and not new steels fresh from a steel mill like Busse.

First choice -- Mercedes Benz
Second choice (almost never available) --Saab
Third choice -- Japanese cars

http://www.himalayan-imports.com/kami.html
 
I love my HI Khuks, they are excellents knives, but just imagine the long and hard life of leaf springs in India before to become knives...
 
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Looking forward to my zilla to compare it to how the battle mistresses did. This is my first kukri so i'm curious.
 
230grains said:
Looking forward to my zilla to compare it to how the battle mistresses did. This is my first kukri so i'm curious.
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Still wonder about the weight and the specs on them. :confused:

I hope Busse didn't go too light and thin toward the tip or it will lose a lot of the chopping power.
 
Again, the forging process takes care of that.
Fergusen's problem was probably a heat treat error making a brittle spot.

The way they do it, it's bound to happen.

Usually a modern controlled heat treat, like Busse and most other makers use, the more common problem is one coming out too soft.
 
Ankerson said:
Still wonder about the weight and the specs on them. :confused:

I hope Busse didn't go too light and thin toward the tip or it will lose a lot of the chopping power.
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The specs on the one i'm getting are

2 lb 5 1/2 ounces

Should be plenty of heft for a blade it's size. The only thing that concerned me was the actual sharpness, which should be easily remedied.
 
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