Busse Game Warden

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I just purchased a Busse Game Warden with an orange G10 handle. It was purchased from another member here on bladeforums, but was sold as "mint" so I beleive it to be a representative sample of what comes from the Busse shop. Perhaps not.

First the technical specs:
Blade: INFI Steel
3" from tip to handle
1 1/16" wide

Handle: Orange G10
4" long
1 1/8" wide at the widest point
9/16" thick

Here is an overview picture of the knife. It is pretty much everything that a hunter should be (at least in my mind). It feels good in the hand and when I picked it up, my initial impression was "Whoa, now this is a knife."

gamewarden.jpg


It came sharp, but not blisteringly scary sharp. I haven't cut anything but a few armhairs with it yet, so this is more of an impressions review. The handle scales are very securely applied to the tang and are comfortable to hold, at least at my computer dest. Again, I haven't cut anything with it yet. This is a user knife and not a showpiece, but I'd like to point out some cosmetic flaws, that in no way affect the ability of the knife, but that I did not expect given the reputation of the Busse Combat Knife Company and the resale value of their knives.

Below is a picture of the edge of the G10 handle scale.

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Notice that it seems to "bleed" onto the blade, like it was not sanded smooth on those edges before application to the tang.

Here is a picture of the front handle rivet.

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When driven, it was not driven perpendicular to the knife, and as such, it does not mate flush with the handle scale on one side. Compare this picture to the one above and you should be able to see a difference.

A picture of the tip of the blade

GWtipview.jpg


You should be able to see two things in this picture. First, the edge is pretty obtuse. The knife is sharp, but again not scary sharp. And second, the edge is not ground even.

None of these cosmetic issues affect the performance of the knofe, except for the obtuse edge geometry, but I've got a stone, will sharpen.

Overall: It is a very pretty knife, even with the cosmetic issues. It did not come super sharp, but that can be fixed. It feels great in the hand. It is hard to argue with the warranty. Bang for the buck? Time will tell. Will it make it into the hunting knife rotation? Definitely. Would I buy another one? Based upon user comments and company reputation, I should never have to.

One thing that is a real downer about Busse Knives is that they don't come with sheaths. In my little world, sheath making is part of the knife making craft. I guess I know why they don't come with sheaths; Everyone has a different view of the perfect sheath, providing knives without sheaths gives buyers a say in what they want, and keeps cost down. However, a fixed blade, no matter how great, stays home without a secure means of carry. A sheath would more than double the useability of this blade "out of the box."
 
:D Yes it looks quite imperfect, but b4 you just throw it away let me email you my mailing address. I love imperfections;)
 
Busse, in my opinion, is pretty lazy and inconsistent with their fit and finish. Some knives are perfect, but most are covered in annoying, albeit minor fit and finish issues. Blades being ground way off are common in my experience, as well as poorly finished and unevenly attached handle scales.

I love their products, but I'll admit that this does bother me, and have wanted to give the topic it's own thread in the Busse forums for a while.
 
This one is going to stay around for a while. Just my humble observations.
 
Thanks, nice review. Especially coming from someone with no ax to grind but offering up some pretty basic observations and great photos. :)
It would be nice for a Busse person to chime in here, to see if this is something that occasionally happens or you got someone's cast off that missed quality control. My experience has been with knives, as well as other items, is that if you are loyal to a brand you often overlook it's weaknesses or get defensive if someone points out a flaw. So it is refreshing to see an unbiased review.
If it was mine I would contact the shop let them know the condition and see if they would make it right even though you are not the original owner.
Good luck :thumbup:
 
Having had a Busse with a tip that looked like that one, I can tell you from experience- call the shop and they will tell you to send it in and they will make it right- and they will, too. I'm sure they'll replace the rivet as well. It is a shame that they have these issues, but they are A+ at taking care of them.
 
Besides the other imperfections, the blade is ground like normal busse blade. It has a asymetrical edge where one side is convex ground and the other flat. The one side is always going to be overground, almost all busse blades are like that....I think thats right. Now the other imperfections. Thats another thing.
 
Besides the other imperfections, the blade is ground like normal busse blade. It has a asymetrical edge where one side is convex ground and the other flat. The one side is always going to be overground, almost all busse blades are like that....I think thats right. Now the other imperfections. Thats another thing.

The use of the asymmetrical edge on Busse blades has been discontinued for years. The edge on that Game Warden is not supposed to be ground like that.
 
We have recently banned drinking at both the handle stations and sharpening stations. . . This seems to have cleared up most of these problems. . .

Please return the blade to us and we will make it right. . . Sorry for the inconvenience and we will do our best to make it up to you. . . There is no excuse for shoddy workmanship on any Busse Knife . . . PERIOD.

Thanks,

Jerry
 
Question: Is it really so that unevenly ground edge makes no difference in performance?

Great knife, hope you come back with some review of how she handles different tasks.
 
"Not supposed to be."

It has very high stain resistance for a carbon steel. Comparable to many high carbon stainless steels.
 
Thanks Mr. Busse, ther is an e-mail inbound to customer service right now. I probably would not have contacted customer service except for the offer. It really does seem to be a great knife.

PatriotDan, what I meant was that the knife is sharp, and the uneven edges do not take away from that sharpness. Besides, a stone and some elbow grease can take care of uneven edges.

Flatgrinder, according to Busse Combat, INFI is not designed to be stainless but seems to be quite stainless in practice.
 
What grind is it now then? because most of my busse's are not ground evenly on both sides.

Very rarely do I get a Busse/SRKW with an evenly ground edge, but that is not an asymmetrical grind. That is just crappy edge grinding. An asymmetrical edge is something unmistakable. One side is ground very high and acute, the silver edge grind is four or more times thicker than a regular edge when you look at it on one side, the other side is normal. Asymmetrical edges are awesome and scary sharp. I have a friend with an asymmetric Basic 7 that is going to post the picture soon.
 
For the heck of it, just checked my few Wardens (6).

One has a slight case of uneven grind (noticed at the tip...similar to Hlee's picture but not as extreme). Two have a tiny bit of what he describes as "bleeding" from the micarta handle onto the blade. The rivets on all of mine seem perfect to me.

The "bleed" problem was solved with about five minutes' effort -- a bit of sandpaper and an impromptu metal tool took care of it with almost no effort. I was extremely careful so as to avoid scratching the finish...

As I already knew, all six are very sharp...if not 'scary' sharp.

I'm quite satisfied with my Wardens. I'll not be sending them anywhere. It was, however, interesting to note Hlee's observations...and check out the condition of my own Wardens.
 
After much pesonal deliberation I have decided that the cosmetic issues are sufficiently minor that I will not be sending the knife to Busse for repair. Someone in a thread in the Busse forum mentioned something about "my precious," well there you go. Besides, if it were "perfect" I'd always be worried about that equally revered and despised factor known as resale value. As soon as I have a sheath made I'll try to post some observations of actual use.

Because it is a hunter, or will be soon enough, I'll be comparing it to my other hunter blades: Knives of Alaska- Alaskan Hunter, 4" blade D2 steel, Buck- Cabelas Alaskan Guide Series Vanguard 4 1/8" blade S30V steel, Hibben- Alaskan Pro Hunter 4" blade 420 J2 steel.
 
This thread caused me to re-examine my three small Busses, GW, AD and HD. All three appear ok with the exception of one of the rivets on the GW which extends beyond the edge of the scale material when viewed at a 90 degree angle. Looks like it might need a return trip.
 
I looked at my GW, and it has a little minor "bleed" of the handles where it wasn't sanded, but I kinda like it.. Gives it character.. I'll always be able to pick mine out of a crowd!

My blade looks good though.. Guess mine was a post drinking-ban knife!
 
Mine had that. It was pretty easy to remove. It did have a new one though, maybe somebody can explain it to me. Underneath the orange slab there is a definite black something (marker, powder, something that won't come off, looks almost like sharpie marker) that is bleeding out. I could send it in, but I have come to accept that Busse's don't alway have the best FandF and it doesn't make any difference in use. Just curious what it is.
 
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