Busse Machete??!!

zombieassassin said:
I've owned both the AK and Rucki....and also a Short Butaniku. For me as a machete the parang style works a little better...never did grab a Boom Parang...but recently picked up a KaBar Parangatang and it is nice...a little too heavy but nice.
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I kick myself on a regular bases for not getting a boom parang, and I have almost bought a parangatang about fifty times. Lol! How is the handle? That has been my hangup. It doesn't "look" comfortable.
 
The handle definitely has issues and takes a bit of getting use to. Probably due to being use to a Busse feel. Not bad and totally manageable.
 
Cobalt said:
machete needs to be 1/8" thick or less for fast action.
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Yes. And that is why we will not see a true machete from Busse. Some will try to do heavy prying with that thin, long blade, or even worse some jerks would try to deliberately break it to crow about breaking a Busse. The only reasonable way to do it would be to back off on Busses fantastic warranty, something I doubt Jerry would ever be willing to do.
 
MikeH said:
Yes. And that is why we will not see a true machete from Busse. Some will try to do heavy prying with that thin, long blade, or even worse some jerks would try to deliberately break it to crow about breaking a Busse. The only reasonable way to do it would be to back off on Busses fantastic warranty, something I doubt Jerry would ever be willing to do.
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Maybe in Regular Knife World, but in Busse Land, I dont think so. They have made plenty of thin blades that were not suitable for prying. If someone wanted to deliberately break a Busse/Kin blade there have been plenty of opportunities for them to do it. If I remember correctly, with the Scrapmax blades they openly stated that they weren't mean for prying but they were in fact still backed by the same warranty.
 
MikeH said:
Yes. And that is why we will not see a true machete from Busse. Some will try to do heavy prying with that thin, long blade, or even worse some jerks would try to deliberately break it to crow about breaking a Busse. The only reasonable way to do it would be to back off on Busses fantastic warranty, something I doubt Jerry would ever be willing to do.
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One in SR-77 would be able to take pretty much anything you could throw at it!
 
clampdaddy said:
Maybe in Regular Knife World, but in Busse Land, I dont think so. They have made plenty of thin blades that were not suitable for prying. If someone wanted to deliberately break a Busse/Kin blade there have been plenty of opportunities for them to do it. If I remember correctly, with the Scrapmax blades they openly stated that they weren't mean for prying but they were in fact still backed by the same warranty.
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The Boney Active Duty (BAD) had a thin blade with a distal taper and was hardened to 60-62. It was not recommended for prying but was 100% covered by that best in the business Busse guarantee! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
I wonder what performance gains we would see from an INFI machete over, say, 1055. Noss’s 1055 Cold Steel Kukri Machete (about $25 with sheath) almost did him in—couldn’t kill it with anything short of lateral stress, which no 1/10” thick blade is going to withstand. That 1055 is left soft on a machete—probably in the 50 HRC range—so it won’t hold a clean, sharp edge for long. But the blade is so thin to begin with that, for it’s purpose, it doesn’t have to be razor sharp to work. And when you do need it really sharp, it’s easier to sharpen quick than just about anything you could name. Which means it’s also quickly restored after picking up incidental edge damage—obviously that’s going to happen often with a long, thin blade swung hard into all kinds of stuff, including the ground (which has broken 1311’s as reported here on the forums).

So what more would you get from INFI—less oxidation and a little better edge life (until its first ding)? For what cost? Is it worth it? You know Jerry has thought that through, given the level of interest over the years.

BTW, thin SR77 doesn’t appeal to me after seeing how the edge on Noss’ (very thick) test blade looked at the end of his test (compared with INFI blades he tested). It was chewed up almost to the point of being unrestorable without a full primary regrind. SR77 is very tough, but it’s not very strong (relatively).
 
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MikeH said:
Yes. And that is why we will not see a true machete from Busse. Some will try to do heavy prying with that thin, long blade, or even worse some jerks would try to deliberately break it to crow about breaking a Busse. The only reasonable way to do it would be to back off on Busses fantastic warranty, something I doubt Jerry would ever be willing to do.
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I think that when you keep a steel like INFI or SR77 really thin it will have the ability to flex to a point where it cannot be broken. A blade that thin will not pry because it is to easy to flex, so it is useless as a prybar. And flexing will not break it. I don't think there is any negatives. Busse could even drop the Rc two points to make it easier to flex. Current machetes are made with all kinds of steels including 1075 and they flex, but the Rc is fairly low I think. It is doable.
 
I think you’re right. But then the case for increased performance @ a given price point as compared with something like 1055 becomes even harder to make, no?
 
Will York said:
I think you’re right. But then the case for increased performance @ a given price point as compared with something like 1055 becomes even harder to make, no?
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True. The basic steel of a machete wears fast from many resharpenings. INFI and SR77 both will have better wear resistance and higher toughness. But I agree with your point. Is a $200+ machete worth buying over a tramontina. For me, I think the draw is the fact that it is more of a high quality lightweight sword. That's why it will sell.
 
Cobalt said:
I think that when you keep a steel like INFI or SR77 really thin it will have the ability to flex to a point where it cannot be broken. A blade that thin will not pry because it is to easy to flex, so it is useless as a prybar. And flexing will not break it. I don't think there is any negatives. Busse could even drop the Rc two points to make it easier to flex. Current machetes are made with all kinds of steels including 1075 and they flex, but the Rc is fairly low I think. It is doable.
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Yeah. Like fillet knives. The same steels would snap if they were thicker and bent to the same levels.
 
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