Busse price justification

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mephistoph

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I'm new here so I don't want to offend anyone, but what is so special about a busse that causes the prices to be so high?
I bought a fully custom knife with mastodon molar handles and moku ti Damascus blade for not much more than what the new hawkeye dagger and the flying mojo are going for and these aren't one of a kind knives like the one I just purchased. I would love a good explanation other than their sheer indestructiveness.
Thanks
Meph
 
Classic economics. That is the real answer.

They are great knives and they can't keep up with demand and they don't want o become a sell out making inferior products for cheap so production is limited. Infi is also a 'super steel', there are starting to be some good competitors out (s30v s35v, h1) but they aren't as proven or from a proven knife maker, and they cost as much or more than a Busse - so a price comparison is moot.

You yourself said you paid more than the hawkeye and mojo for a knife - so you obviously know knives can cost a lot. And hopefully you know that the hawkeye and mojo could be 'users' but are most likely show pieces - Busse's real world users are why I love the knives and that gets back to your sheer indestructiveness, but those knives cost a lot less than the hawkeye or mojo. (but still a lot...)
 
You would have to use one to understand.
I like that they hold and edge longer than normal and are easy to sharpen.
 
Why are some guns $180 and some are $18,000?

What can a $400 Chris Reeve Sebenza or Umnumzaan, a $1500 Hinderer Custom, a RJ Martin, Todd Begg, Medford, or a MicoTech do that a $15 Smith and Wesson knife not do?

What makes a Porsche that much better than a FIAT or a Prius?

Quality always costs money, and always will.


In the immortal words of Joe Dirt "might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good?"
 
Material, design, quality, warranty, reputation, exclusivity, collectability, all of the above? Obviously there are alternatives, and they're not for everyone. Try one out if you're interested, if you don't think its worth it you can sell it easily
 
I don't know too many knife makers that encourage you to push their blades to the limits and dare you to break them so that they can happily replace them. That goes a long way with me.
 
If they weren't any good, would they sell for the prices they command right now? The Swamp just raised its prices a bit not too long ago due to increased demand, that says something. Usually most folks with a good head on their shoulders won't pay a high price for a premium product unless A- they appreciate high quality from a collector's viewpoint, B- They REQUIRE a premium product due to job/lifestyle/environment, or C- they want top-of-the-line performance regardless of cost. Hang out around here long enough and you will understand our madness.
 
It's because Jerry has expensive taste in booze, and he has to pay for a lot of it. Oh, and the knives are good, and they can get what they're asking. ;)
 
Why is sheer indestructiveness NOT a good enough answer???

If I am going to carry a knife, I may need to rely on it in any situation. I want to be sure that it is indestructible, and will serve me well.
 
The value of something equals what folks are willing to pay for it. That works for a gallon of gas, or a Busse knife.
 
Resale value plays a role as well, if you pay "x" for a busse knife 99% of the time you can resale for the same "x" , buy Busse with confidence my friend.
 
We are not talking about quality issues here as I have stated my knife is a custom hand made one of a kind.
M67 said:
Why are some guns $180 and some are $18,000?

What can a $400 Chris Reeve Sebenza or Umnumzaan, a $1500 Hinderer Custom, a RJ Martin, Todd Begg, Medford, or a MicoTech do that a $15 Smith and Wesson knife not do?

What makes a Porsche that much better than a FIAT or a Prius?

Quality always costs money, and always will.


In the immortal words of Joe Dirt "might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good?"
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^ that was hilarious :)

Edit; wow im slow...

mymindisamob said:
It's because Jerry has expensive taste in booze, and he has to pay for a lot of it. Oh, and the knives are good, and they can get what they're asking. ;)
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Now ^ that was hilarious :)

I personally dont stick to 1 brand, I have knives from a lot of different companies. I buy what "I" like. Weather its a 25 dollar cryo, a 75 dollar Becker or a 500 dollar Busse. They all have their place, and all have certain qualities I like. But when you hold that new custom of yours, that you paid so much for, dont you get a certain pride about owning it? I love my 75 dollar knives but I dont get the same feeling from owning them as i get from owning a Busse or kin.

Now To answer your question. Besides the pride of owning a great quality knife that is fully tested and backed by awesome people, you can take a look at indestructibility, if you dont want to go there you can look at edge holding ability, re-sale value, warranty, and steel. You cant get INFI steel unless you buy a Busse.

I was skeptical of the prices at first as well, but im glad I took the leap.
 
I dislike these type of conversations.

The answer to pricing is most often overhead. The company is not huge but it's darn sure not start-up / garage workshop small. It costs "x" / hour of machine time to run equipment and "x+" to cover costs of stellar employees.
 
I for one agree with you. While I will never say a Busse is anything less than a great product, but I wont pay what they cost on the SECONDARY market. For the price some of them sell for I can have a knife with any materials I want, made exactly how I want, and it will have better fit and finish (one at time production will always be put together better) for the same price if not less in some cases.

That being said as soon as something is being sold threw the shop that I like I will not pass up the chance to get one at direct from Busse costs. Or I can just stick to Swamp Rats and die happy :)
 
Thanks for the info guys. I guess that on further introspection I am comparing apples and oranges. These while are beautiful in their own right and can surely become a show piece if one wished, they are first and foremost "users". My knife is entirely a show piece and a work of art and most definitely not a user by any rights. I wouldn't even think of using this knife to even open a box with it. Therefore I believe that all of your points are valid and I think that I understand why they command the price they do. I was trying to compare raw materials (ie) the mastodon molar and moku ti Damascus against something that is entirely different. Thank you for your input and I will most definitely consider making a Busse one of my next purchases
Meph
 
mephistoph said:
We are not talking about quality issues here as I have stated my knife is a custom hand made one of a kind.
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Why are some custom hand made one of a kind knives $500 and others $3000?

Has to do with maker, reputation, difficulty in making it, cost of materials, quality of materials, and the "just because" factor.

Who made your custom damascus knife?
 
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