Busse sale system

I bet it is easier to find 4 people to spend $100 on a knife, than to find one who will spend $400 on a knife.
 
Maggot Brain said:
On a similar note, the very fact that you can buy a full custom knife of similar size from a well reputed maker as a production knife from Busse is a pretty large turnoff as well.
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I guess I'm just having trouble trying to understand why you're still posting in here. A quick look at your DOZENS of Busse sale threads shows that you've clearly been reaping the benefits. Why the negativity now? I'd simply just move on if I were ever in your shoes.
 
boring said:
I find it annoying that they hide production numbers.
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Boring I have to admit I have thought this very thing many times. Why do they do that? People say this blade is 1 of 6 and that blade is 1 of 12 but then it seems like I'll see a dozen of them come up on the exchange all at once. Anyways I mean how can anyone be 100% sure unless it's stamped on the blade?
 
hydeinmind said:
Boring I have to admit I have thought this very thing many times. Why do they do that? People say this blade is 1 of 6 and that blade is 1 of 12 but then it seems like I'll see a dozen of them come up on the exchange all at once. Anyways I mean how can anyone be 100% sure unless it's stamped on the blade?
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If it says "1 of x" then that is an accurate number. Also, I haven't been around a long time but I have seen very small batches of certain knives at BladeShow that weren't marked "1 of x" and I haven't seen more since.

I like not knowing numbers. The only number that matters to me is that they aren't pumping out thousands of every knife to anyone they can get to buy them.
 
jd4320t said:
I guess I'm just having trouble trying to understand why you're still posting in here. A quick look at your DOZENS of Busse sale threads shows that you've clearly been reaping the benefits. Why the negativity now? I'd simply just move on if I were ever in your shoes.
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I find it peculiarly ironic that people here have no problem paying a premium for something that a maker is clearly making a killing on has a problem with an individual collector trying to maximize the value he gets back out of the knives he decides to part with.

I doubt you'd share the same sentiment towards a coin collector who has moved some rare coins for just slightly more than he paid because the market occasionally allows for it. Keep drinking your Koolaid fellas, I've had my fill and have little use for being a part of this 'community' where anybody shares a dissenting viewpoint gets thrown to the sharks.
 
I like custom blades, I just like Busse knives better. What grinds my gears about a lot of custom knives is theyre custom for custom's sake, whereas I want my knives nice and pretty but the design has to be driven by performance, period.

As far as the sales model, I find that its pretty effective in balancing supply and demand at several levels, and I like the options that it provides. Put in the effort and get the lowest price, or pay the middleman for doing it for you, but on the other side the supply can make the middleman take a loss where the patient buyer can still get the lowest discounted price.

Its a pretty good balance, I think. But the quality and design of the blades drives everything, as long as that's strong, I'm happy.
 
I'm just confused I guess. If you don't like Busse, their offerings or how they go about it then don't purchase anymore, it's that easy.

You kinda have to expect some pushback when you come to the company sponsored forum and start bashing. May would get a bit different of a response in a general forum. You don't have to announce to the world on why they are so horrible and why you won't buy anymore, there are specific forums for that type of discussion.

The only people that I've seen really upset with the new business model are those who were flipping blades to make money.

If all those other makers are better in your eyes, by all means go spend your money there (if you can get on the books for most of em).

You are never gonna like all aspects of a business you spend money with, but that's the great thing about free enterprise, if you don't like it and how the owner does things you can spend elsewhere. Simple!


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Maggot Brain said:
Keep drinking your Koolaid fellas, I've had my fill and have little use for being a part of this 'community' where anybody shares a dissenting viewpoint gets thrown to the sharks.
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People disagreed with your viewpoint and explained why. Not everyone has to agree on things..crazy, right?
 
boring said:
I bet it is easier to find 4 people to spend $100 on a knife, than to find one who will spend $400 on a knife.
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So, I used to be apart of that crowd. Why pay $400 for one blade when I rather pay $400 for 4 blades.

Well a perfect example of this was the Gerber machete. Sure I could spend $50 on a machete then everytime I used it I would have to send it back to get replaced or reprofile due to chips or severe folds in the blade. So, I used the blade as it was intended then would have a 4 month wait to get it back.

One of my first purchases from Busse was a 1311. I took it out multiple times and used it the same way as the Gerber. You know what, that damn thing is still chopping and working hard and I haven't had to send it back once or resharpen it!

However, I also understand how hard it is to use a knife that you got $400 into. I only use two or three of the Busse's I have. The rest are safe queens.

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Maggot Brain said:
On a similar note, the very fact that you can buy a full custom knife of similar size from a well reputed maker as a production knife from Busse is a pretty large turnoff as well.
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Have you been to Blade? Wander around the forgers section. I was astounded by the value of some of those blades, when you think about the work that goes into a hand-forged knife.


LOL, I'll quote myself...

resinguy said:
Now, if you want to say that a CG Busse blade, carved by CNC machines, with minimal hand finishing, save final sharpening, is overpriced ... well ... that is a value judgement, isn't it?

There is no right or wrong answer. What is it worth to you?


YMMV.
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Any number of folks have passed though over the years who have decided that a machine made production knife from Busse was not worth it to them. One person may find the knives to be overpriced. Another may decide that the unique toughness of INFI, combined with a forever warranty represent a to them. There is no right or wrong on that question.

People have been annoyed by the Busse sales model as long as I have been here, and probably before. And yet these last few years have been the Golden Age of Bussekin availability. More new models and more knives than ever before. To the point that the Exchange is full of good stuff. Flippers are not being rewarded, and overpriced old blades languish. Gotta love a vibrant free market.
 
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we all like busse knives from one degree to another. Some people here, that's all they have. Other people here are still dreaming of their first. It is a thread about the busse sales model. Not, just tell me things you like about the sales model.
 
boring said:
we all like busse knives from one degree to another. Some people here, that's all they have. Other people here are still dreaming of their first. It is a thread about the busse sales model. Not, just tell me things you like about the sales model.
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Good point. We went down some rabbit holes.

So to sum it up, no one knows except for Busse. So ask them! Lol

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Maggot Brain said:
Sorry to crap on your thread, OP... I won't say anything more here.
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Gee... A little late. Thanks for trying to make as many folks feel badly about liking Busse knives as you can...and then complaining about being "thrown to the sharks".
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