busse/swamprat/scrapyard sale forum

[El_Toro]

All the discussion that I've heard has been that the new forum would still be moderated the same, by the same people. The rules wouldn't change, we just wouldn't be "clogging up" their sale forum.

If this is the case my "yes" vote can be turned into a "no" vote. My main grief with the new rules is the 72 hour thing, turn it to 24 and I'd be happy. If we were to get out own forum, I'd hope that we can have some say with the rules.

 

[idahoskunk]

you're right hogfried, i only go to the one forsale forum, i see whats there and start drinking, i didn't even know there were other sale forums.

 

[Cutshaw]

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

Why was there no option for "hell no, keep your ghetto"?

Regardless of what is decided, I am never going to browse or sell in a new forum.

 

[Rat Finkenstein]

All the discussion that I've heard has been that the new forum would still be moderated the same, by the same people. The rules wouldn't change, we just wouldn't be "clogging up" their sale forum.

That is the root of the problem. It is not "their" forum- it is for all gold and above members.

A few whiners are too lazy to scroll past knives they don't want to buy, so they want to stick the stuff they don't want out of their sight. . . selfishness. Maybe they are jealous that the Busse knives have such good secondary market values? Who knows. If I am selling any knives it will not be in some specialized side forum. It will be in the place where my thread will get the most traffic.

I am not selling my knives only to Busse enthusiasts, I am selling them to the general forum population.

I would expect them to be royally pissed off if I said I was tired of seeing their knives for sale, and I want them to be put somewhere I won't see them. . . but they expect me to rejoice over their self-serving BS?

:thumbdn: :thumbdn:

I agree that idle chatter in sales threads should be stopped, but nobody is going to stick me in the corner and punish me because they don't like the brand of knife I am selling. I will continue to post any sales in the standard forum.

 

[MORIMOTOM]

That is the root of the problem. It is not "their" forum- it is for all gold and above members.


I am not selling my knives only to Busse enthusiasts, I am selling them to the general forum population.

exactly why i decided it is not necessary.

 

[Str8Edg]

Well, it looks like a majority of pollsters have voted for a special forum, but not one comment in favor of it. The minority is the only ones stating an opinion so far. Why should we want a Busse only forum?

JFTR, I've never once opened the Buck's only thread. I have no idea what's in there. On the flipside, I had no idea about Himalayan Import khukris before I came to BF. After seeing them in the for sale area I became interested and got one. I've got 12 now. I wouldn't have ever looked at one if they weren't in the for sale area, ya know.

I didn't know about Busse before I came to BF either. I came here as a custom knife enthusiast. I kept seeing Busse's for sale, and at first thought they were insanely expensive. But, I was being exposed to them in large numbers. I eventually was like, if so many people are into them, there must be something to it. It's not like the whole world knows about them just because some many folks here are familiar with them. I'd never heard of them. Now they dominate my collection.

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

That is the root of the problem. It is not "their" forum- it is for all gold and above members.

A few whiners are too lazy to scroll past knives they don't want to buy, so they want to stick the stuff they don't want out of their sight. . . selfishness. Maybe they are jealous that the Busse knives have such good secondary market values? Who knows. If I am selling any knives it will not be in some specialized side forum. It will be in the place where my thread will get the most traffic.

I am not selling my knives only to Busse enthusiasts, I am selling them to the general forum population.

I would expect them to be royally pissed off if I said I was tired of seeing their knives for sale, and I want them to be put somewhere I won't see them. . . but they expect me to rejoice over their self-serving BS?

:thumbdn: :thumbdn:

I agree that idle chatter in sales threads should be stopped, but nobody is going to stick me in the corner and punish me because they don't like the brand of knife I am selling. I will continue to post any sales in the standard forum.

+ Sell where the most traffic is.
+ Not feeling like we are not welcomed on the regular FS forum.


Excellent points RF! Here's an imaginary +1"chicklet" for you.

 

[Evolute]

I agree with Mike (Rat Finkenstein) entirely.

 

[G19G26]

83.729% of those polled said polls are 91.126% wrong 99.9456% of the time.....................................................

Well that's the word on the street, anyway.

true but the busse fans make up 62.76% of the total blade forum users

(rand mcnally poll)

and some of us count as 4







.

 

[Progunner]

I agree with Tony, I think a sub forum will be bad for Busse, both the company and those of us who collect and trade in their wares. All this talk of bogging stuff down is getting a bit old. Sparks new rules as I see them are fair and if followed I think they will negate the need for this creation of a sub forum. If we as a whole can agree to make a concerted effort in observing the rules for a couple of months to see what effect they will have for the flow of the sale forum, I am betting that the complaining might subside. I do think the attaboy posts and free bumps are out of hand and hog wash. We know it is looked down upon and that it has brought us to the point of having us relegated to our own sales sub forum. Lets knock off the crap and trying following the rules for a few months and maybe Spark will see that the extra effort isn't needed. I think we as adults can handle that little bit of responsible behavior. Don't you?

 

[Progunner]

That is the root of the problem. It is not "their" forum- it is for all gold and above members.

A few whiners are too lazy to scroll past knives they don't want to buy, so they want to stick the stuff they don't want out of their sight. . . selfishness. Maybe they are jealous that the Busse knives have such good secondary market values? Who knows. If I am selling any knives it will not be in some specialized side forum. It will be in the place where my thread will get the most traffic.

I am not selling my knives only to Busse enthusiasts, I am selling them to the general forum population.

I would expect them to be royally pissed off if I said I was tired of seeing their knives for sale, and I want them to be put somewhere I won't see them. . . but they expect me to rejoice over their self-serving BS?

:thumbdn: :thumbdn:

I agree that idle chatter in sales threads should be stopped, but nobody is going to stick me in the corner and punish me because they don't like the brand of knife I am selling. I will continue to post any sales in the standard forum.

I concur. Well said.

For those of you who are voting for a sub forum to make it easier to find Busse knives, I really think you are not considering the totality of the effect it will have on the collectibility of the blades as well as what effects it might have on the Company itself. Jerry gets a lot of exposure for his company(ies) through the for sale forum by folks who might otherwise not even know what a Busse knife is. TonyG is right, this could be bad for Busse and us as collectors.

Here is a link to my 2 cents in the Service forum as well. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4353869&postcount=79

 

[Jim G.]

There are 40 votes, And less than that have posted here some multiple times. Most of the yes votes are probably by non Busseites. I agree we shouldn't be forced into our own for sale forum. I think though that Tony has it backwards.
I don't think it will affect Busse transactions at all. I think that the main forum will stagnate.
As far as continuing to post in the main forum if one is made, your posts will be moved just as those continuining to post Hi's in the production forum are moved to the custom forum since it was decided that that is where they belong. I would imagine a continued violation of the rules would lead to sanctions against that person.
Remember that even though most of us pay for the privledge of using these forums we are still guests here.

 

[TurnerIII]

Not all of the poll choices are mutually exclusive - I mean I will hunt INFI down wherever it is! However our own trading/selling page is interesting too.

I was at first was against being put into a getto, groto, etc however as other brand knife people have shown their colors - I am starting to think - the hell with them. Build ours and let us be. Their traffic will drop like a stone (something they desire I guess) and most of them will be stopping by ours anyway.

I am tired of having my Busse WTS/WTT pages being clogged up with ads for their small, puney, girly boy butter knife pry bars anyway! (Arnold voice!)

Only one more point needs to be settled - and you know this shoe will be dropped soon - Who will pay? If they have such issues over our fun then let them pay for (at least a part) setting up a Busse sale/trade board. Why should we pay for their personal problems ?


I voted for! [them to pay] :thumbup:

 

[Ken44]

I would think that the isolation in a separate forum would have a negative impact on Busse knives.

Major corporations value their trade marks pretty much by discounting their advertising costs. Advertising equals exposure. Exposure equals sales.

So do you want Busse to have more or less exposure? If you don't care you should reconsider.

Now it would be interesting to have our own sales forum and see if the prices fall or stay the same.

Best Regards,
Tony G

For the record I do not care if Busse has it's own forum or not. If you want a Busse you will find them without a new sales forum.

I don't think the above is true though. When people see a couple in Buck forum, 15 in the reg. forum , then see 20 people in Busse sales forum that would make people want to look and see why so many are there. Curiosity.

Don't think it would make us isolated or give Busse less exposure. People would want to know what is so great about Busse when they see all the people there. Could create more exposure and advertising, not isolation.

That's my opinion, right or wrong...I'm not really sure.
I wonder what Jerry would think ???

 

[Lil' Foo]

I agree with Rat... Don't go sticking me in the corner!

 

[idahoskunk]

i agree with rat too...

RAT FOR MODERATOR!:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:





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[Rat-30]

No seperate for sale forum forced on us, please.

That is as polite as I can be about this.

Sincerely,

John

 

[Greg45]

Both sides of the argument have merit, but I voted against. I can identify with Chickenfried's post, and remember when I came to Bladeforums. My main interest was Swamp Rat, and I mainly skipped over the Busse FS posts because I didn't really know that much about them, plus I thought them too expensive for my wallet. Well that's changed now, and mainly because they were in front of my face a lot on the exchange.

It may not hurt Busse to a tremendous degree, but I think exposure = interest in many cases. One of the reasons this place is fun is because of all the activity. Many "newcomers" to Busse, say the ones who have shown up in just the last year, are now some of the most prolific. If the exposure lessens, so will this effect, which helps keep not just the sales forum lively, but also this forum. :thumbup:

 

[wh4f]

A few whiners are too lazy to scroll past knives they don't want to buy, so they want to stick the stuff they don't want out of their sight. . . selfishness. Maybe they are jealous that the Busse knives have such good secondary market values? Who knows.

This is NOT why the Buck collectors voted to move to their own for sale thread.

It was because all of the Busse fanboy's bumping up their buddies thread all day long (with BS- Nobody really cares if you had the money yesterday or not or if you didnt just have your third testicle removed today you would have bought the knife etc.) All of the Busses' were bumped to the top all day long, bucks wound up back on page 6 if you could ever find them...
With the new rules Spark came up with yesterday I think that should take care of the problem though. I don't know if it helped or hurt the Buck sales or not but Buck knives mods donated a few Buck custom (one of a kinds) to get the votes to get their own sales area...
Also I dont know how many of you guys would actually buy a Buck anyway that arguement is null and void here, I just don't buy it. If someone wants a Buck Knife they know exactly where to look, one extra click, talk about lazy- Sheesh!
Also I am unsure how Buck knives sold on here before they moved compared to Busse anyway, the one Buck I did buy (off page 6) before the move had been listed on BF for a little over a month I believe, and it was a rare ATS-34 version. So they probably don't sell like Busse anyway...